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Whoever says prospects get better in school isn't watching the playoffs

 

If you read me regularly you know I'm an advocate of projected lottery picks taking guaranteed NBA money at the first available opportunity sans rare circumstances. I've honestly never understood how anybody could disagree, how it can be a "mistake" for a young person to make more money in a two-year span than most Americans -- college graduates, even -- will earn in 20 or 30 years.

And stop with the get-better-in-school argument.

It's mostly silly.

LeBron didn't spend a day in college, yet led the NBA in scoring this past season. (AP)  
LeBron didn't spend a day in college, yet led the NBA in scoring this past season. (AP)  
There are people who love to tell you how prospects can improve by playing another year in college, or even all four years in college. It's true, in some respect. But that theory ignores the alternative, that there are plenty of examples of players who improved once they were in the NBA and that there's no tangible evidence backing the claim that honing your skills in college is actually better than doing it in the NBA (even if it's on an NBA bench).

You don't think Gilbert Arenas got better after he entered the NBA?

What about Jermaine O'Neal's improvement as he sat and watched?

Did going to the NBA too early stunt their growth?

Of course, it didn't, but that's not the point.

The point is that out of curiosity I took a look at the 16 teams competing in these NBA Playoffs and tried to see if there is a correlation between college experience and the success of individuals and the franchises they lead. What I learned is that it doesn't seem to be a factor at all considering that heading into Friday night's action eight of the 16 teams have leading scorers in these playoffs who never spent a minute in college.

Did you get that?

Dwight Howard (Magic), LeBron James (Cavaliers), Tracy McGrady (Rockets), Amare Stoudemire (Suns), Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks), Manu Ginobli (Spurs), Kobe Bryant (Lakers) and Kevin Garnett all entered the NBA without college experience, which should tell you everything you need to know about the legitimacy of the age limit and how it's embarrassingly dishonest for the NBA to pretend it was somehow put in place to protect our nation's youth. Pleeease. The age limit forcing players to college is a marketing tool and nothing more, a rule designed to turn guys like Derrick Rose and Michael Beasley into recognizable stars before they enter the NBA so that a Christmas Day doubleheader can be built around them more quickly. I see the genius of it; I won't deny that. But the age limit is no more necessary for the majority of high school players with immediate/legitimate NBA aspirations than the biology class they might take in their first semester of college.

(Rant complete)

Not getting schooled
College experience for teams' current leading scorers in NBA playoffs.
Player Yrs.
Dwight Howard 0
LeBron James 0
Kevin Garnett 0
Dirk Nowitzki 0
Manu Ginobli 0
Kobe Bryant 0
Tracy McGrady 0
Amare Stoudemire 0
Chris Bosh 1
Rasheed Wallace 2
Chris Paul 2
Allen Iverson 2
Joe Johnson 2
Antawn Jamison 3
Deron Williams 3
Andre Miller 4

Anyway, only one of the leading scorers of the 16 playoff teams spent four years in college.

His name is Andre Miller.

He plays for the Sixers.

Beyond that there are two three-year players (Antawn Jamison of the Wizards, Deron Williams of the Jazz), four two-year players (Rasheed Wallace of the Pistons, Chris Paul of the Hornets, Allen Iverson of the Nuggets, Joe Johnson of the Hawks) and one one-year player (Chris Bosh of the Raptors), meaning the leading scorers of the 16 NBA Playoff teams spent a combined total of 19 seasons in college.

That's an average 1.2 seasons each.

And if you think college preparation is still necessary I can't do anything for you.

Truth is, I love it when great players stay in college because I love college basketball. I wish D.J. Augustin was doing another year, and wouldn't it be great if Jerryd Bayless and Donte' Greene and Darrell Arthur all came back too? Nobody would find that more enjoyable than me. But I'm also willing to admit that any desire I have to see those guys again play in the NCAA tournament is based on my personal enjoyment and not some foundationless claim that Bayless or Arthur or anyone projected as a first-round draft pick might not reach his potential if he leaves school too early or that he might noticeably benefit from another year in college.

The bottom line is that guys who are built to make it usually make it and guys who aren't usually don't.

But either way, it has very little to do with college experience.

And if you don't believe me just turn on the NBA Playoffs.

Then watch the games and see for yourself.

 
Talk Back
Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Jan 24, 2007

April 26, 2008 12:19 pm

No one plays defense in the NBA, so why not take the money on that level if all you can do is score? The NBA is horrible ...

Reputation:88
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 28, 2006

May 12, 2008 2:12 pm

I like the article and agree in the main but what about the other side. He never mentioned or tallied up how many kids leave college early and never get anywhere. How many would have had a better live for the extra college years or be drafted higher or be better players/people and perform to a higher level? but these aren't easy things to measure and maybe miss the point.

maybe not ...(more)

Reputation:95
Level:Superstar
Since:Feb 22, 2007

April 25, 2008 2:56 pm
 

Although I am happy that this new rule forces kids, especially urban youth, to have some sort of academic success, I have my reservations based on principle. 

No other sports other than football and basketball have limitations to when you can be paid and recognized as a professional.  These two sports are the two that are most heavily dominated by the Afric ...(more)

Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Apr 17, 2007

April 28, 2008 1:38 pm
I guess points are all that matter in the NBA (not that this isnt already known). This article only furthers that. I love watching college basketball but i cant stand professional basketball. Of course you will have the occasional game in which people are cold and cant make much so they will say it was because both teams played tight defense. But i just like watching college kids out there playing ...(more)
Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 25, 2006

April 28, 2008 6:32 am
i see players not playing defense.  i see flopping like dying fish.  i see unorganized chaos on offense.  basically its playground basketball.  i'll take ncaa basketball over nba goofoffs any day.  this article is stupid. 
Reputation:96
Level:Superstar
Since:Oct 19, 2006

April 27, 2008 9:21 pm
I believe that there's no hard and fast rule and that circumstances determine what a guy should do.  I'm a UConn fan and I'm thrilled that Thabeet is going back to college, but I also think it's absolutely the right choice.  He's 7'3" and would go in the lottery this year, but he would be at the end of the bench most of his first year.  Thabeet is one of the most talented playe ...(more)