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Should the nhl for the leafs organization to fold


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Since:Aug 18, 2006

January 31, 2008 3:35 pm

BELOW IS WHY I HATE LEAF FANS,, YOU ILLITERATE MORONS KNOW NOTHING, YOU CAN'T READ , AND IF YOU DO, YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ
YOU SAID,,,,

"First off the leafs won't sell for 300 or 400 million$. The most recent offer was 1.5 billion because it is a franchise worth more than any other"


The 1.5 billion you speak of, I read a couple stories on.  It's purchasing all of mlse!  Maple Leafs, Raptors, Toronto FC, the Air Canada Centre and digital channel Leafs TV, etc The toronto maple leafs, Are worth between 3 and 400 million dollars. The billionaire that's thinking of buying them is bidding on mlse, not only your beloved leafs.

Second of all,, losing 1 profitable team that does more damage then good, would not hurt the league.  See, as  I said before, but your peabrain can't understand simple english. 

The league will pay for toronto's blunders for years to come . When you overpay at EVERY POSITION for about 6 or 7 players a year, it hurts the entire league, and  drives prices up a whole lot more then anything they might contribute in revenue sharing...

But you know what??? i'm done responding to you.. you don't understand anything, not even what your own team is worth


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Since:Jan 29, 2008

January 31, 2008 3:39 pm

Leafs are the highest valued team in the league because of it's fans.  They are die hard.  You would'nt find me supporting a team for 40 years without a cup.  That's devotion.

Maybe you should all switch to Minnesota Wild fans, get one year of happyness.  Then you could go back.

Bandwagon's are fun

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Since:Feb 14, 2007

January 31, 2008 5:45 pm

This is probably the most illogical thread I've been part of, this and the "Fire Gainey Now" thread on the Habs board.

The Toronto Maple Leafs provide both the players union and the league financial stability in an NHL that has far too many teams in financial trouble.

If you want to get rid of any teams, get rid of the teams that are constantly in the red.  They do nothing but suck the teet of the NHL's new welfare (aka profit sharing) system.  See how Nashville and other teams that get financial aid from Toronto feel about them folding.

Beyond that, ask anyone in any NHL job post at any level about that idea, and they'll say that whoever made that suggestion probably gets colouring books for Christmas.


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Since:Aug 18, 2006

February 1, 2008 10:21 am

"Beyond that, ask anyone in any NHL job post at any level about that idea, and they'll say that whoever made that suggestion probably gets colouring books for Christmas."

Maybe, but at least I can stay between the lines. You guys just don't get it. Maybe when I give you some REAL numbers you can actually recognize that i'm not the moron you think I am... or maybe you won't, who cares. But you read on and tell me what you think anyways,,, just refrain from nonesense please. Give me facts, not fiction. And try to go 3 sentences without "go leafs" being in the body.

The 6 canadian teams account for 28 percent of the league revenue... in other words 20 percent contribute to 28,,,  good , but not overwhelming by any means dude. And considering toronto is only 1 of the 6 ... it's not that crazy.

Here's the REAL number though. Last year, the Maple Leafs contributed a whole 10 million dollars in revenue sharing.  You really believe for a second that the nhl would be in trouble in toronto didn't contribute 10 million dollars? It doesn't go to ONE team, it gets spread around. 

Toronto used to be a great franchise, win or lose, but now has become bad for the league, not good.  What they have done lately is embarassing and sick.  The salaries they have paid out to mediocre players drive up salaries and hurt the league,  no question about that.  You CAN'T pay guys like Kubina and Mccabe a combined 10 million plus a year and say your good for the league. You can't pay washed up darcy tuckers 3 plus million a year and say your good for the league. Do you know that many years ago toronto paid tie domi over 2 million a year?? TIE DOMI FOR GOD SAKES !!!!

What do you think happens when a team is irresponsible like that?? Do you have trouble believing that it drives prices and hurts the league? What do you think is going to happen when better defenseman become free agents? Do you think agents propose they get paid LESS or MORE?? Do you think agents allow teams to chalk that up to a mistake by toronto and not real market value? Your crazy if you think those things.  Why do you think guys like rafalski and mathew schneider signed and got the money they got? You think rafalski at that age is really worth 30 million for 5 years? Sure, he's good, but that good?

I could go on forever, but I won't waste anymore time. Anybody that doesn't bleed toronto colours knows what i'm talking about, and a die hard leaf fan will never read my above post and make sense. You will just shake your head and pretend everything i'm saying is wrong. THAT'S WHY I'M NOT A LEAFS FAN...

For me, it's never been the players I had a problem with. I truly believe for the most part, players on all teams do their best and love what they do. 

My problem is with the leafs management that do nothing to help the league by driving prices up.  Did you know that bettman in 2005 fought with toronto because they had no interest in an increase in revenue sharing and were opposing the whole idea? Doesn't sound a team player to me...

My other problem is with fans that look at the title of a thread , go crazy and type nonesense without reading what I write.

I'd suggest before you respond to this post, forget how you feel about me, read it twice, and you might find it makes some sense.

 


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Since:May 4, 2007

February 1, 2008 12:04 pm
The 1.5 billion you speak of, I read a couple stories on.  It's purchasing all of mlse!  Maple Leafs, Raptors, Toronto FC, the Air Canada Centre and digital channel Leafs TV, etc The toronto maple leafs, Are worth between 3 and 400 million dollars. The billionaire that's thinking of buying them is bidding on mlse, not only your beloved leafs.

How exactly is it possible for someone to buy just the Leafs, but not everything else MLSE owns? When you buy a company, you buy everything that goes with it. If I wanted to buy a car company, I wouldn't be able to buy JUST Chevy, I'd have to buy the entire GM company. I wouldn't be able to buy just Toyota, I'd have to buy Toyota and Lexus. If you want to buy the Maple Leafs, you have to also buy the Raptors, TFC, the ACC, Leafs and Raptors TV, etc.

So maybe they are worth between 3 and 4 hundred million, but it's not like it's possible to buy it for that much.

Oh, and how come you never responded to my post on your "why are you a leaf fan" thread?


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February 1, 2008 12:08 pm

And seriously, how much longer would the NHL last if the Leafs were to just fold? It's crashing and burning WITH the Leafs, it wouldn't last an entire season when you take away the revenue that the Leafs bring in.

The Leafs single handledly increase the piece of the pie for revenue sharing for everyother team by a significant margin. By taking them out, revenue sharing might give every team about 10 bux. Since I already know you don't know, that last sentence was a sarcastic exaggeration, something commonly used in writing. That's another thing you might learn if you ever decided to go to college. So far we have that and Microeconomics.


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Since:Feb 14, 2007

February 1, 2008 5:22 pm

If your only argument is just that Toronto drives the prices up on players salaries, and they're irresponsible with their spending, then you might want to consider canning the Rangers first.  Remember, they were the team with a bigger payroll then any NFL squad, they were the ones that decided to give a 3rd line center in Bobby Holik a $9 million dollar per year contract, and they were the the ones guilty of overpaying every single free agent that came out on the market before the salary cap came into effect.  But to suggest that the Rangers should be forced to fold is equally assenine.

I think everyone in Canada knows that the 6 Canadian teams supply close to a third of league revenue.  What's that say?  It says Canadians love their hockey and they are willing to pay to watch it.

Toronto isn't the only team that doesn't care for cost certainty.  I know for a fact that George Gillette felt that he should be able to spend what he wanted to on his team payroll, he also felt it wasn't his problem how some of the southern teams fared.  After all, it wasn't his brilliant idea to drop teams in those uninterested markets.

I know what you're trying to say, itsjustme, and it still is a stupid argument.  I am not a Leafs fan (as evidenced by my name, LOYALHAB) in fact, I just plain don't like the Leafs at all, but your argument is based on your hatred for the Leafs, but you try to make it sound like you have an argument based on facts, which you clearly don't.  Look at the facts.

1.Nobody holds a gun to the heads of these Leafs fans and makes them buy tickets