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Since:Aug 16, 2006

March 4, 2008 4:54 pm
 Find the right coach.
 Make a strong financial commitment to that coach.
 Build first-class facilities.
 Increase the program's budget across the board.

Gary, you talk about making a financial commitment to that coach so that he has a reasonable chance of staying.  Gonzaga paid Few less than $100K per year to start off.  Two years ago he was estimated to be making $600K per year. 

Look around at the salaries of even the mid-major conferences.  This is a financial commitment to that coach, but a strong financial committment?  I don't think so. 

Few is only there because Gonzaga has found the right coach.  Now you give steps 2, 3 and 4 a chance to keep him, but your right coach has to have a committment to the university or he says see you later.

Coach Few has said that his quality of life is better than at any time ever and that is where his family wants to live.  Few is the right coach for this school and for the City of Spokane.  That is why they have sustained things.

Take him and plop him into any school in the country trying to go step 1, 2, 3 and 4 and his will be gone if he doesn't fit.  He'll take the money and run.

 


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Since:Feb 20, 2008

March 4, 2008 5:28 pm

Gary attended the game and wrote the story without ever getting off of his writers arse and actually researching the subject. Gonzaga's success came before all four of Gary's so called receipe's for success. It's success is directly attributed to the QUALITY OF KIDS that they recruit. They recruit student athletes who are going to be around for four years and develop into men. They don't have the Blue chips who are looking for a better deal and thirty shots a game, they recruit Blue Collar guys who love to play the game of basketball. Someone has to dive for the loose balls, take the elbows to the chin, set the hard picks, these are the core kids that they recruit - Stockton, Dickow, Mallon, Knight, Stepp, Turioff, Kuso, Pendo, Ravio. Since the players stay for 4 they have the time to mature and with a stong work ethic they naturally fit into a team mentality.

Regarding Few, he is an outstanding program admiunistrator. As far as the actual coaching of the game goes, he flat out sucks. Look at the Zags history in the last 3 or 4 years against the big name coaches, the Zags have had the lead or been within one or two buckets in the closing minutes of these key games and Few has gotten his ass kicked every time. Bob Knight, Bennett, Coach K, Howland, Calipari flat out own his ass when comes to game time.

 


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Since:Aug 31, 2006

March 4, 2008 6:13 pm

Gary was right about adding a little luck.

Gonzaga's great run of success in the NCAA's began with a win against a Minnesota team that suspended four players, including two starters.  Maybe Gonzaga wins that game anyway, but only maybe.


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Since:Nov 27, 2006

March 4, 2008 6:13 pm

C'mon now....let's look at the teams coached by those guys you are naming as outcoaching him.

WSU, Duke, UCLA, Memphis.....let's be honest, those were better teams...period. The Texas Tech game at the beginning of the year was with us minus Heytvelt and Steven Gray.  Using your same logic, in the past year he has beat teams coached by Roy Williams and Jim Calhoun....2 of the most respected coaches in the game and of all time. 

In essence, your argument holds no value.....think back to last year after they lost Heytvelt, were completely outmatched, and nearly beat Memphis after 2 days of practice.  The fact is he is a great administrator and a great game coach.  They lose games to these high profile coaches because they are building an elite program.  They play anyone, anywhere and do quite well.....those are the facts!

 


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Since:Mar 9, 2007

March 4, 2008 7:09 pm
Finding the right Coach is essential. As a UW-Milwaukee fan, i look at Bo Ryan followed by Bruce Pearl... the program was competitive. Rob Jeter does not fit the bill so much. Finding the right coach is probably THE most important ingredient to success as a midmajor.

Once you have the coach, it's important to keep him, but in all honesty Midmajors can't always compete salary wise. Milwaukee's athletic department can't compete with Tennessee's salary offer. Even if you can't keep a coach, four years with a Bruce Pearl or Bo Ryan is better than 10 years with a nobody.

It is especially important, as a midmajor, to be willing to find a new coach in a heartbeat. Midmajor programs typically don't have the history and tradition to fall back on for the national exposure. If a midmajor coach underperforms, he needs to be out the door fast. Even in down years, people know who Illinois is. UIC however? If they aren't a 20 win team sitting on the bubble, no one cares about them. Midmajors can't afford to have down years if they want to be considered a prominent program.

Gonzaga may be a winning program now, but as soon as they drop to .500 for a season people will forget they ever existed and their coach will be trying to hop over to the Pac-10 in a heartbeat.


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Since:Feb 20, 2008

March 5, 2008 12:09 pm

I like your arguments, but I think you are a little off, as I am talking about X's and O's which is what game coaching is about. Further, outside of Memphis (in the case of Duke, if I recall, they were both ranked in the top ten, so they were approximately equal) , for the most part the Zags were favorite in each one of the big losses.

Few vs Bob Knight  record 0-3, all three games Zags were ranked or in the case of March Madness seeded higher than Tech, all three games Few loses.

Few vs UCLA in an epic March Madness Game - Zags up by 20 in the 2nd half and lose in O-T. Ouch, if Few was a great coach this doesn't happen. A great coach doesn't lose a 20 point lead EVER, while an average coach wins and loses these types of games. By the way this game is classified as EPIC because it is deemd to be UCLA's great comeback story, however, the other side of the coin is that it is an epic because very FEW teams give up a 20 point lead in the 2nd 1/2 in the Big Dance.

Few vs Tony Bennett 0-2, anyone who objectively watched both of the games would clearly see that Few was out coached.

If you want to focus on just this year's losses against the big names:

WSU, Oklahoma, Texas Tech (with its 500 record), Memphis, Tenn each and every case the Zags had a chance to win under the 2 minute mark and lost. The Oklahoma game is a perfect example of Few's idea of game coaching: down by two, plenty of time on the clock (approx 10 seconds) OK makes its final free throw, instead of calling a timeout,setting a play, and assuring that all of your three point shooters are in the game Few lets Pargo attempt a playground move by driving the length of the floor and heaving a three point attempt, of course the shot was BLOCKED, since everyone in the building knew Pargo was going to shoot. Nice job, I bet the unused time out was nice to have on the bus to the Airport. So would you rather have Pargo shoot the three or just maybe Downs, Daye, Bouldin, Pendo, my sister?

The key to great coaching is in the final minutes where coaching actually has its greatest impact on the game and Few is at best average. AGAIN, I truely believe outside of X's and O's he is a great program administrator - recruiting, scheduling, player mangement and development, etc.