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Reputation:95
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Since:Nov 30, 2007

March 26, 2008 4:26 pm
I don't know, man ... it seems pretty cut-throat to let a guy loose after an over .500 season despite the poor conference record ... they play in the Pac-10 after all, not the Sun Belt or something. Maybe this was this a retirement?

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Since:Oct 19, 2006

March 26, 2008 4:27 pm
i wasn't even sure Cal had a basketball program.

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Since:Nov 17, 2006

March 26, 2008 4:30 pm

Finally,

I'm so glad to get this guy out. He can't coach and can't recruit. Cal has been bad for years. Even when they went to the tourney, they were so-so.......He is a nice guy but that won't get you wins!


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Since:Apr 27, 2007

March 26, 2008 5:03 pm

Braun was.......... on the one hand respected in the bay area because of his integrity and because he was a true "student first, athlete second" type coach.

On the other hand, he was a sub-par recruiter and coach.  To be competitive in the Pac-10, you need more than a star player coming in about every 2 or 3 years. You need them every single year.  Granted, it is very difficult to remain commited to a "student first" atmosphere and at the same time recruit the type of talent they need to stay competitive, but it is possible, and Braun wasn't doing it.

Beyond that, he just wasn't a great floor coach either.  His teams lacked cohesiveness and chemistry.  It just seemed like they had no focus.

Whoever Cal hires will give a very good indication of whether the scool wants to maintain its student first mentality or whether they choose to win at all costs.  It will be interesting to see which choice they make.


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Since:Mar 26, 2007

March 26, 2008 5:42 pm
I watched a bit of their last NIT game and every time they showed Braun he looked like he was just zoning out on the bench.  Maybe he knew what was coming...

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Since:Aug 20, 2006

March 26, 2008 5:44 pm
Braun just doenst get the most out of his players, and every year seemed to be a "we could have done this if everything went right ... " type year.  It was time for him to go.

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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 24, 2006

March 26, 2008 6:02 pm
How on earth does anyone think this is a bad move?  That said, I honestly disagree with a number of posts that questioned his ability to recruit.  In my opinion, that was his one and only strong point.  He brought in a lot of talented players.  The problem is, once they got here, he all but destroyed the teams that they were on.  How many times did we see someone like Leon Powe have to create scoring off of taking their man one on one while fighting help side defenders because there's no order or logic to Braun's offense.  Having guards pass the ball around the key for twenty seconds and then having someone break their man down will not cut it in the Pac-10.  An offense has to fit the players that are on the team, not the other way around.  I'll miss the good free throw shooting, and the occasional star, but I'm hoping we can find someone that can keep those things, and also bring something to the table after the season starts.

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Level:Pro
Since:Mar 26, 2008

March 26, 2008 6:08 pm

Two consecutive 9th place finishes (really last place if you disregard Oregon State) ought to give the A.D. the right to find another coach.  Either that or offer Braun the same salary as a full-time professor if you want to stress how important academics are to the University.

Cal basketball would be the embarrassment of the Pac-10 if it weren't for Oregon State.  Not even a Cal fan, I'm sure they can do alot better with a new coach.  Look what Herb Sendek and Tony Bennett did for their schools the last 2 years.  Why shouldn't Cal at least try to compete?


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Since:Feb 26, 2007

March 26, 2008 6:16 pm
He is a loser, players hate him and he cannot coach worth spit.

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Since:Apr 27, 2007

March 26, 2008 6:18 pm

Blugolden- You are spot on with your take on how Braun's offense works (or doesn't work)

However, I disagree with you on recruiting, and you've almost made my point for me becuase after you talk about all the talent they brought in have you mention Leon Powe.  Leon Powe plays for Boston.  He's no longer here, and that's my point.  Getting 1 or 2 standout recruits every  few doesn't cut it in the PAC-10.  An occasional Ryan Anderson or Leon Powe can't compete with the recruiting that UCLA or USC or Arizona does year after year.

Let's put it this way.  By Brauns own strict standards of who he brings in he was a good recruiter.  But by true competitive standards, his recruiting was sub-par.  It wasn't terrible, but sub-par.


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Level:All-Star
Since:Jan 16, 2008

March 26, 2008 6:30 pm

Cal alum and hoops-freak here....

I think it is time for Braun to move on. He was an above average recruiter, seemed to have direct ties to Chicago(Lampley was a prize recruit, Randle was a nice catch at the time), and got the occasional big name player(Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Leon Powe notably).

What killed me is he never could make midgame adjustments to go with the ebb and flow of the game, particularly if there is one hot player who is just dominating. If an outside shooter is hot, Braun would never consider switching from zone to a box and 1 in order to ensure that player never had an uncontested shot. I still have nightmares about players like Eddie House having 50 point nights against Cal when Braun was not able to make any necessary adjustments. 

With the likes of Hardin, Anderson, Christopher and a decent supporting cast, they should be better than 9th in the conference this year. How can they beat WSU in Pullman, but get swept by smallish Oregon?

Thank you Ben, for the 12 years of representing Cal very well. But, it's time for a change.

 

 


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Since:Aug 17, 2006

March 26, 2008 6:40 pm
This isn't about one bad season -- when you finish near the bottom of a power conference for 3-4 years, it's time to cut your losses. I understand that Cal has high academic standards, but so does Stanford, so does Duke, so does Vanderbilt. I expect Braun to follow a path similar to his predecessor, Todd Bozeman -- go to a low-major, build a solid program (as Bozeman has done at Morgan State), maybe get another shot in a BCS league.

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Reputation:90
Level:All-Star
Since:Oct 6, 2006

March 26, 2008 6:51 pm
Here's an admittedly ridiculous thought on the next coach, not based on any fact or anything else except my own daydreaming at work this afternoon: Larry Brown. He's a name, he's coached in the Pac-10 before, and the man can coach.

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Since:Apr 27, 2007

March 26, 2008 6:58 pm

I gotta think Mike Montgomery will throw his name in the hat for the job.


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Since:Jan 15, 2007

March 26, 2008 7:03 pm

I say put Tedford in there :)


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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Jun 28, 2007

March 26, 2008 8:23 pm
I'm betting on Randy Bennett of SMC.  Steve Lavin will lobby for the job.  If Montgomery wants to get back into coaching (which I doubt), I'm sure Cal will be on his list.  I'd like to see them at least interview former Cal player and coach Dennis Gates.

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Since:Jun 28, 2007

March 26, 2008 8:28 pm
Definitely not a retirement.  He was fired and still wants to coach.  He was fired for three straight unimpressive seasons and for losing alumni support.  Despite the "winning season," Cal barely beat anybody good. The reason they had such a good record is precisely because they play horrible teams before the Pac-10 season so that their record ends up looking okay despite the inability to beat good teams.

Incidentally, last year they came in 8th place, not 9th, like somebody said. They did come in 9th this year.

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Since:Feb 27, 2008

March 26, 2008 10:13 pm
When did you all start following Cal basketball, 1995??  These 12 years have been Cal's best years since the early 60's.  Ben Braun could coach, he recruited decent athletes.  Devon never lived up to potential, but Ryan Anderson is a player that a program can be built around.  It is too bad Ben Braun will not be there to coach them.  Except when Cal suffered too many injuries to key players, this program was overall over 500.  If you think any other coach will do better, lets blog in three years, while we suffer with 10-19 programs on probation.