Tubby into Kentucky Athletic Hall of Fame

"And as far as UK not deserving to get in give me a team with a better resume that had to encounter as many injuries and setbacks. UK was more deserving than any team that didn't get in b/c they won the games they had to have. When all the bubble talk was surfacing more teams lost and left it to chance while Kentucky was posting a 12-4 conference record and finishing the year on a strong note. "

Dayton had a better resume top to bottom than UK and had injury/illness problems and did not get in.

"Are you on crack Journey Force?  The team that Gillispie inherited was the least talented group since Eddie Sutton left the team on probation.  And who's doing is that?  That's right genious----Tubby Smith.  On top of that....the injuries hurt them just as much with their two best players geting hurt.  Gillispie did one hell of a job getting that team where they were. "

Ok, so let's recap.  In Tubby's first year, he won a national championship and his performance was discounted because he didn't recruit the players he won with...even though he did win with them.

In Billy Clyde's first year, he struggled early losing to teams UK has never even heard of before and getting blown out by a team that is not known for being a basketball powerhouse (Vandy).  Say it with me, "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD UK LOSE TO GARDNER-WEBB BY 16 POINTS AT RUPP ARENA!"  He managed to pull together a number of wins against the mediocre to bad teams in the mediocre (this year) SEC (none got past the sweet 16).   I will give them a good win over Tennessee.

Now, who should be praised and who should be bashed?  Why is it happening the other way around?

UK wasn't talented this year?    If all were healthy, UK would have made much more noise than they did.  Hell, with Patterson back at the end of the season, you could have counted on at least another round in the tourny.

For people to blame tubby for the state of the program is insane.  Look at his overall winning percentage at UK.  It's actually HIGHER than UK's all time average.  Tubby had some incredible teams while he coached.  

Tubby is the ONLY UK coach to beat UNC 4 times.  Tubby never missed a year in the NCAAs. 

Not only those, but he was a GREAT ambassador for the university, and for college basketball as a whole, (as he still is)

besides, tubby would never have lost to GW or san diego.

Arguments could be made all day over who made it and who didn't, but by your own measure, Dayton went 8-8 in a league that was worse than the "mediocre to garbage" that the SEC was, vs. a UK team that had as many, and with an honest eye, more injuries than Dayton, and went 12-4 in conference.

I'm not defending UK's entry over the general populace, but the case you make for Dayton in that example, over UK, is a weak one.

Journey Force---No one discounts the 98 national title in which Tubby coached.  Yes it was a great job that year.  He also had a great team in 03 - which I still to this day think it was the actual best team in basketball that year.  Outside of those two years, the teams were mediocre.  That is not accecptable to be mediocre 8 out of 10 years. 

Apparantely you did not listen to what I said which is probably your entire problem to begin with.  WHY DO YOU THINK UK LOST TO GARDER WEBB AND SAN DIEGO---THATS RIGHT GENIOUS--TUBBY LEFT THE TEAM WITH SO LITTLE DEPTH AND VERY LITTLE TALENT---ON TOP OF THAT, THEY HAD MULTIPLE INJURY PROBLEMS THOUGHOUT THE YEAR---BILLY G DID A HELL OF A JOB IN GETTING THAT TEAM WHERE THEY WERE CONSIDERING ALL OF THOSE FACTORS.

You are so blinded by your hatred and jealosy of Kentucky that you can not see the facts.  You need to start thinking a little bit or maybe actually learining a little bit before you post rediculous things.  Journey Force--one can only hope that you can start posting accurate and intersting things and hopefully you can start listening a little more...instead of just running your flaps.