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Since:Jun 25, 2007

May 9, 2008 9:36 am

Big B and everyone else....

If that pissface guy comes back just ignore him.  I know it's hard but try to resist.


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May 9, 2008 9:40 am

Big B...

You see our boy Ben Wallace last night??

Man, I was at a "Gentalmens Club" and I saw the highlights on from the game.  All of a sudden I saw Big Ben walking to the bench and collapsing.  Scary stuff, I just read that it was his allergies actin up and he had a migraine.  Good to see him ok, I thought he had a concussion or sumthin.  Did you see the way he fainted??


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Since:Sep 29, 2007

May 9, 2008 9:43 am
I always ignore him DJ, but I just feel bad that he keeps ruining these threads because he's following me around. I feel that if I don't post here, he won't show up, but then I won't get to have a logically discussion with you guys anymore. It's a dilemma that has me torn.

And about LeBron, he is probably one of the most gifted athletes in history. He has probably the most physical talent out of any NBA player in history. If he can raise his bball IQ, he can be one of the greatest. I don't believe he the best right now either. He is a one man team and will rack up lots of stats that way.

He could be the best ever, but that is up to him and what he decides to do as he gets older and more wiser in the NBA. He has the talent, but now he needs to get the smarts.

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May 9, 2008 9:47 am
Man, I was at a "Gentalmens Club" and I saw the highlights on from the game.  All of a sudden I saw Big Ben walking to the bench and collapsing.  Scary stuff, I just read that it was his allergies actin up and he had a migraine.  Good to see him ok, I thought he had a concussion or sumthin.  Did you see the way he fainted??
Yeah DJ, that had me worried. I think I fainted myself. I'm glad it was nothing serious; if it was I would have to a "Get well Big Ben" thread and focus all my time and energy on hoping for him to get better.

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Since:Jun 27, 2007

May 9, 2008 10:24 am

Gaz, good call. I was actually about to go into the thread and officially declare the Pred Thread Dead.

I would disagree with the notion that Lebron is one of the most gifted physical athletes ever - I think he is the most gifted physical specimen ever. It's either him or Shaq in team sports (boxers, fighters, decathletes I'm not counting here) He's also highly skilled, but he's not driven by the same OCD-level desire to get better as MJ, Kobe, Bird, Kareem all were/are. At least not yet, he may after this series (nothing like a little taste of the old humble pie to drive a man forward.)

It is unfortunate that the Media crowned him before he totally earned it (after last season, he'd earned it, but prior not really) because I think it demotivated him a little. Obviously still a major stud out there and one of the top 3,4 whatever players in the League. But to get to that next level, he needs to be driven by the desire for perfection which normal, sane people are not (as perfection is impossible.)

Lebron is a pretty business-smart dude and I think that his focus is on his and his family's life rather than perfecting the game of basketball. MJ was a freak and his total focus was dominating every last waking moment of his life - his family crumbled as a result. But his on the court is, well, we all know.

This is not to fall into the dreaded Lebron v. Kobe v. MJ comparison trap, but when you are talking about players that good, you really have to bring the others up or there is just no point of reference.

He's having a rough series to be sure (averaging 8.5 TOs hurts) which is compounded by the solid play of his teammates, Z especially as it seems to beg the question, "What if Lebron was on too?"

I want Lebron to develop his own persona - but I don't think that that is going to happen. From his Kevin Garnett pre-game to his GQ post-game and statesmen speaking style (very political, excellent at it) he is an exercise in pick and choose to develop and exhibit media persona, rather than an honest representation of who he really is. This is an absurdly personal point for someone who has never been within 20 miles of the guy to make, but

Lebron needs to recognize that he is a limited person just like everyone else - and then explore those limits in the framework of a "perfect" basketball game.

And again, if he never got any better he'd still be pretty damned good.


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May 9, 2008 10:35 am
I would disagree with the notion that Lebron is one of the most gifted physical athletes ever - I think he is the most gifted physical specimen ever. It's either him or Shaq in team sports
Wait a minute peter, I think you just contradicted yourself. You said that you disagree about him being one of the most gifted physical athletes, but then say it's between him and Shaq?

Shaq is definitely one of the best as well, but LeBron is 6'8" 250lbs that can run as fast as anyone, jump as high as anyone, and is as strong or stronger than most players. Shaq was huge and could use it better than anyone, but LeBron's speed is what I think makes him better. Shaq was stronger than LeBron, but definitely slower. I think LeBron's strength is as far behind Shaq's as Shaq's speed is behind LeBron's.

Shaq is a perfect example of what LeBron could do. He could be like Shaq, and be one of the all time greats, or he could be the best ever. It's all up to him what he decides to do in his career. Either way though, he will probably be an all time great when it's all said and done.