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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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I was reading an article today by Bradd Biggs and he was saying that contract talks for Robbie Gould could get pricey.
The Bears have been in talks with Gould’s agent Brian Mackler since last season. He’s got big ambitions, and you can’t blame him. The Bears believe in getting a break when they give a player a contract early, even if it’s just one year premature. The club can dangle the franchise tag over Gould’s head in negotiations. But until defensive tackle Tommie Harris comes to agreement, who do you think would receive the more prohibitive franchise tag come next February? There’s no doubt it would be Harris. But general manager Jerry Angelo could still slap the transition tag on Gould.
What’s the price range? Josh Brown received the largest contract given to a kicker this spring when the Rams signed him to a $14.2 million, five-year deal with a $4 million signing bonus to come over from division rival Seattle in free agency. Adam Vinatieri picked up $3.5 million to sign with Indianapolis in a $12 million, five-year contract. Buffalo gave Rian Lindell $2.75 million up front on a $9 million, five-year deal. There’s a range to consider.
Looking at the range of kickers in the league (near the bottom of the box), do you think its possible Robbie Gould might be TOO HIGH for the Bears to acquire any time soon? Will the signing of Gould push Brad Maynard out the door (He also has a very high-contract). Thoughts?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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I'm pretty sure that the transition tag falls under the franchise tag category, in that you can only designate one player per year. So I don't think that the Bears can franchise Tommie and transition Robbie in the same season, I believe that's what you're trying to say, right? Personally, and I don't think I'm alone here, but I'd MUCH rather get Tommie finalized with a long-term deal and slap the franchise tag on Robbie, I mean, who else will we use it on, John St. Clair? LOL. Devin is signed thru 2009 and Url is signed thru 2011, so it's not absolutely imperative that we deal with them immediately.
As good as Robbie's been, I don't think he is yet worth Vinatieri money, and Josh Brown is definitely not worth Josh Brown money, like so many other overpaid NFL players. I wouldn't mind the Bears giving Robbie a deal similar to Rian Lindell's, maybe a little higher,and make it a cool $10 mill over 5 years. No matter what, I'll trust that Stein and Angelo make the decision that's best for the franchise, for now, and for down the road. Good topic.
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Highly doubt it. IMHO paying a kicker in Chicago that kind of money is a waste. He's pretty accurate however he doesn't have great leg strength. Heck, we can probably pick up Robbie Gould's little brother and get the same kind of production.
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Why even give a paycheck to a kicker that cant hit from 50 Yards.
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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I'd rather have a kicker who makes 90% of his kicks up to 49 yards than a guy who makes 70% of his kicks up to 56 yards. Robbie was basically a rookie in 2006 and he was an all-pro, and almost made the pro bowl again in 2007, I think he made 1 less field goal in 2007 out of the same number of attempts, I don't care who you are, that's money. Also, Gould's range is about 53 yards, without wind, and I remember the last time he kicked a 50+ field goal it missed wide, not short. Remember his game-winning kick against the Seahawks in the playoffs? The ball didn't clear the crossbar by just 1 yard, keep that in mind. It's tough to find good, consistent kickers, and they are among the cheapest positions in the NFL, an elite kicker makes around $2 million a year, that's pretty manageable. Robbie's won his fair share of games around here, I'd wager that he's number 2 behind Devin in that department, and I'd bet it's a close second.
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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While kickers are not a dime a dozen, those numbers are pretty ridiculous. If that is the money Gould wants, then let some other franchise give it to him.
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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OK, Brendon Ayanbadejo was a great special teamer who signed relatively cheap with the Ravens. If we let Robbie Gould go whos the next special teamer on the block? Devin Hester, are the Bears going to let him go as well?
Everyone talks about how Robbie Gould is clutch because he made the game winner against the Seahawks in the Playoffs and because he made a game winner in OT against the Bucs. Well, if my memory serves me correctly, he also missed a makeable kick in each of those games.
He is an above average kicker with decent leg strength. Brad Maynard falls under the same category.
I would offer him a deal thats in the neighborhood of 1.5 to 1.8 million a year and go from there.
Besides, is this the best thing that we can think of talking about? A kicker or Cedric Benson on a weekend having fun? Man, we need football now.
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Funniest title on the Bears bored in a long time...nooo not Tommie Harris, lol, lets tag the KICKER...I would hope virginia herself would fire angelo if he did that...!
good post
Go Bears
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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Robbie Gould could get the franchise tag?
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tooljunkie-- The "quoted" box comes from Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune and each team is allowed the option to place a franchise tag OR a transition tag on any player of their choice each offseason. The difference being in the money and rules of the contract.
An "exclusive" franchise tag is not free to sign with another club. He is offered a minimum of the average of the TO FIVE salaries at the player's position or 120% of whatever his salary was the year before (whichever is greater).
The transition tag offers the average TOP TEN salaries, making the price a lot more affordable. Especially in the case of a kicker... hence Biggs stated that the Bears could place the transistion tag on Gould if they can't reach a deal. The drop from the top 3 kick | |
