IM A PATS FAN AND ADMIT THE PATS CHEATED!!!

Hopefully that got peoples attention. All I hear is people say "We want the Pats fans to admit to cheating... yada yada yada yada... we suck!" Fill in some of the yadas and you get the idea. So, what I'm going to do is present the rules that the Pats were in Violation of and then you can all decide what you think about it, cause I really dont care. I just think some people dont actually know wht the rules violation was and they just want to jump all over the Patriots. Once again, I believe they did cheat, but I am not sure as to the extent of the advantage gained by taping the way they did.

I know it's a lot to read, sorry about that. I just had to write a 40 page paper, so it seemed like nothing to me. Anyway, here's the quote from Jimmy Johnson that many people have refered to lately,

After footage from the actual tape was aired on FOX NFL Sunday on September 16, former Cowboys" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys">Dallas Cowboys head coach Jimmy Johnson claimed, "This is exactly how I was told to do it 18 years ago by a Chiefs" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_Chiefs">Kansas City Chiefs scout. I tried it, but I didn't think it helped us." Johnson also said, "Bill Belichick was wrong because he videotaped signals after a memo was sent out to all of the teams saying not to do it. But what irritates me is hearing some reactions from players and coaches. These players don't know what their coaches are doing. And some of the coaches have selective amnesia because I know for a fact there were various teams doing this. That's why the memo was sent to everybody. That doesn't make [Belichick] right, but a lot of teams are doing this."^{[<o:p> </o:p>}

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And here's an actual link to real game footage stolen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntw7G7enxEk&feature=related

(Don't look if you're too much of a serious person)

My interpertation is that they broke a rule and cheated.  If they were innocent they wouldnt have been punnished.  Stop these threads, its the same arguement over and over.

Pats fan: We are innocent, apologize everyone

Sane person:  Why were you fined and stripped of draft choices

Pats fan: Pats are the best team in the league

Sane Person: Why did the Giants win the Super Bowl last year?

Pats fan: Belichick you are my god

Sane person: why are you on your knees for another man?

Now that we all know how this thread is going to turn out not need for further posts.

No one outside the Belicheat camp knows for sure exactly the extent of the taping--when it started, how many games?, which games?, what part of the games?, et al. 

To me, this is no different than Barry Bonds' (alleged) use of designer steroids and HGH.  Yes, you can insert anyone's name in here besides Barry's, but we all know of the contraversy behind 756.  No one except Willy Mays' imfamous Godson himself knows when he started using, what he used, etc.

Therefore, consider the following:

Is it an absolute certainty that taking these measures--performance enhancers versus performance capturers--will translate into observable improvements on the field?  No. 

Barry Bonds still has to be able to see the ball well--Mo Vaughn was HUGE yet never came close to Bonds' numbers.  Big Mac never hit for average, just power.  The Patriots' players still require a good skill set and smarts to be able to implement whatever nefarious game plan Belicheat could devise. 

However, the question still remains, is this use of "enhancement" clear-cut cheating?  Yes.  Simply put, if doing either one doesn't work that well, then why do it?  Why risk getting caught? 

Common sense should prevail: The Patriots are shrewd and talented.  They have taken full advantage of the rules, loopholes and free-agency better than any team since the late 1990s.  However, it is clear that they felt the need for an edge.  In other words, they really weren't as good and they cheated to get there. 

Remember folks, lack of evidence of wrong doing doesn't mean that the acused is completely innoscent.  

No matter what anyone says, their "Dynasty," want for a more apt descriptive word, is no more or less tainted than any baseball record of the past 20-30 years. 

Miked, part of being a fan is speculation and idle chat.  Honestly, does what takes place on or off the field affect your life?  It's entertainment and it's fun to engage in these excercises--albeit fruitless ones. 

My advice to you is just relax and enjoy the harmless debates.