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May 10, 2008 2:51 pm

2007 - Associated Press

With spying accusations leveled this week against the Patriots, some of the Eagles left from the NFC title team are wondering if New England used bootleg film to their advantage in the Super Bowl.

"Do I think about it? Mmm hmmm," said Brown, their starting cornerback. "It's crazy. I just don't know how far back it goes.

Something's not right about that."

Pro Bowl safety Brian Dawkins found the accusations troublesome.

"Now there's always going to be questions about the situation," Dawkins said Thursday. "Was it great adjustments at halftime or what?"

Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward said this week that he suspected the Patriots had some type of inside information on the Steelers before at least one of the teams' two AFC championship game matchups since the 2001 season. While Ward said the Patriots knew a lot of Pittsburgh's calls, none of the Eagles could offer any type of solid proof of any shenanigans.

New England beat the New York Jets in last Sunday's season opener in which an on-field video camera focusing on Jets coaches was confiscated from a Patriots employee.

On Thursday, New England coach Bill Belichick was fined the NFL maximum of $500,000 and the Patriots were ordered to pay $250,000 for spying on an opponent's defensive signals. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell also ordered the team to give up next year's first-round draft choice if it reaches the playoffs and second- and third-round picks if it doesn't.

"I would like to think it's just one team doing it, but it doesn't shock me that it happened," Dawkins said.

Some Eagles said occasional signal-stealing is an accepted part of the game. But they believe what the Patriots are accused of doing crosses the football morality line because it threatens the integrity of the game.

"It's different if you're talking about recording it," Dawkins said. "What can you do if you try to signal a play in?"

Brown said he noticed a difference in New England's playcalling in the second quarter. After the Patriots gained only 45 yards in the first quarter, they had 286 over the next three.

Brady hit running back Corey Dillon and gained 29 total yards on a pair of screens to open New England's first full drive of the second quarter. They didn't score on that drive, but did on four of the next five drives.

The Patriots went to the screen pass again on the decisive drive early in the fourth quarter, this time with Brady connecting with Kevin Faulk on two passes for 27 yards.

"I was like, 'Man, I never saw that many screens," Brown said.

Brown wonders if it was normal playcalling from a team good enough to win three Super Bowls in four seasons, a Patriots team that used a strong scouting report to gain a fair edge, or was somebody picking up the Eagles defensive calls from a sideline camera that deprived them of a fair shot?

"I think they should forfeit, man," said punt returner Reno Mahe, smiling. "We won the Super Bowl. I think we should get it.

I'm going to go trade my NFC championship ring for a Super Bowl ring."

The headline over a picture of Belichick on the back page of Thursday's Philadelphia Daily News might have said it all: "Counterfeit RING: Spy Scandal Helps Explain Birds' Super Bowl Loss."

Hey, maybe the illicit tape would show once and for all if Donovan McNabb really did get sick in the huddle late in the game.

"Maybe we'll get our ring back," said a chuckling McNabb.

"Maybe we'll get the real one."

 


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May 10, 2008 2:52 pm
Here comes the cavalry !!!

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May 10, 2008 3:06 pm

Oh god here we go  if its not 1 team and fan base I hate  its the other 


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May 10, 2008 3:12 pm

Pats fans have been saying all along that there is no significant advantage with what they did, and that it was a minor deal.  If it is so insignificant then why are all these other players from other teams coming out and saying different?  Either the players are just mad that they lost and coming up with excuses, or there really was a significant advantage. 

Pats fans will say they are just sore losers

Non-pats fans will say the players have a legitimate gripe. 

I think I'll side with the players, I think they know more than average joe pats fan on the couch collecting unemployment.


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May 10, 2008 3:42 pm

I'd say most of them are pharmacists stealing and taking too much of the product.


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May 10, 2008 3:54 pm
Bill Belicheat should have been fired IMMEDIATELY after this scandal was found!

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May 10, 2008 3:57 pm
I was goin to change my avatar. Now I think I'll keep it.

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May 10, 2008 3:58 pm

Craft doesn't have any morals.  It's a wonder how he never figured out how a second rate coach won for so long.  Maybe he was too drunk to see it.


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May 10, 2008 4:11 pm
 

Pats fans have been saying all along that there is no significant advantage with what they did, and that it was a minor deal.  If it is so insignificant then why are all these other players from other teams coming out and saying different?  Either the players are just mad that they lost and coming up with excuses, or there really was a significant advantage. 

Pats fans will say they are just sore losers

Non-pats fans will say the players have a legitimate gripe. 

I think I'll side with the players, I think they know more than average joe pats fan on the couch collecting unemployment.

I think I'll side with hall of fame coaches like Bill Cowher, Bill Parcells, Jimmy Johnson and Mike Ditka who have all said things such as they did it when they coached, it happens all the time, it gives a very minimal advantage, it's not a big deal, etc..

 

Yeah, the 01 Steelers lost because of signals... Not because their special teams couldn't tackle Troy Brown, or because the Patriots blocked a FG and returned it for a TD..  It was signals... Not the fact that Kordell Stewart couldn't throw a football into the ocean from the edge of a boat..

The 04 Steelers lost because of signals.. Not because Troy Palamalu and the rest of the secondary couldn't cover or tackle Deion Branch...

 

The 04 Eagles lost because of signals.. Not because they didn't play with a sense of urgency in the final 3 minutes and had a QB puking in the huddle and throwing awful passes..

 

It was all signals that did it.. Patriots are thiefs... tainted, tainted, tainted..