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We Should Trade Burgess!!


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We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:92
Level:All-Star
Since:May 16, 2008

May 19, 2008 2:42 am
yea, he did do good, 2 years ago....look at Tommy Kelly...they paid overpaid him for going through an injury himself! and he still hasnt proved shit

so you dont think we should keep him or what? make up your mind....dont say is productin is going down, CUZ ITS REALLY DAMN HARD TO IMPROVE FROM 16 SACKS.

BURGESS IS PROVEN AND WAY MORE VALUABLE THAN TOMMY KELLY!!

you wanna question our best D-lineman???.....then tell me who is!!!!


We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:92
Level:All-Star
Since:May 16, 2008

May 19, 2008 2:45 am
good job bro.....so we do agree.....but we just signed un-proven players like Javon Walker and Tommy Kelly and even Gibril Wilson.....

tell me....who would you sign from them three and who are worth the money.....

Im jus sayin bro....raider fan for life.....but you gotta question some of the Raiders moves by what im sayin!!


We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:97
Level:Superstar
Since:Jun 14, 2007

May 19, 2008 9:42 am
Colonel Kurtz, Do you know anything about the D-line? If a player has an amazing season like Burgess did as a D-linemen, Teams will account for him and start to double him. There is a reason why Chris Clemons had a good season last year. The opposing team was busy trying to block Derrick Burgess which left the other side of the line a little weaker.

Why do you think Dwight Freeney's sack numbers went down after his breakout season? And why do you think Robert Mathis start to put up Dwight's former numbers? It's all about having someone else on the line to account for.

The Raiders haven't had that, Glenn Dorsey would have been a great person to counter Derrick Burgess's pass rush. The 16 sacks Burgess got two years ago was by no means luck, It was a showcase of great talent. This year, we've signed a bunch of under-performing DE's and We'll see where that goes. Derrick Burgess will continue to be doubled which will continue to frustrate him. He might leave if this continues to happen.


We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 22, 2008

May 19, 2008 10:07 am

Ya  I do know about the DL. I also said Id keep Burgess rather than trade him so take a hike with that argument.

Its MY OPINION that Burgess IS NOT the best DL on the team...big fcking deal.

Chris Clemons got sacks as a situational pass rusher, period. He wasnt a starter, sorry to inform you. If Burgess was all that, why did the starter, Jay Richardson, only have one sack? Oh lemme guess, because he sucks right? Whatever. Situational guys have one job to do. I like DBurg, but Id rather have TKelly, William Joseph, or Big Turd Sands if he plays up to potential. Its my opinion and if either of you come at me like that again Ill bring it like the AHole I am. Especially you, ginga_fck. I havent liked you from day one. Im entitled an opinion without you mouthing off every time.


We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 22, 2008

May 19, 2008 10:19 am
 CUZ ITS REALLY DAMN HARD TO IMPROVE FROM 16 SACKS.

I never said he should improve on it, I said he hasnt even come close to that spectacular season. Not only that, it was the one and only season he went off like that. Its called a flash in the pan...a one year wonder. He didnt do anything spectacular before or after his 1st year in Oakland, yet is our best DL? Thats a matter of opinion, "bro"

I also said not to trade him because if hes going to have a good/great season again, now is the time being a contract year, remember that part?


We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Sep 10, 2006

May 19, 2008 11:01 am
All I am saying is this.  He is a steal at his current contract.  It would be foolish to trade him while the Raiders are paying him half of what he is worth.  After his contract expires, he will command a big contract, this is when we should trade him.  After he has had another productive year and we aren't underpaying him.

We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Jul 25, 2007

May 19, 2008 11:34 am
I also said not to trade him because if hes going to have a good/great season again, now is the time being a contract year
what's up Colonel? good weekend? I keep thinking this same thing with Burgess, that this is his contract year, but some dude named Slider Hook or something like that keeps saying he has 2 years left. Any way we can find out for sure? It will be interesting to see how Burgess comes along this year. Can he stay healthy and start 16 games? Will he hold out? Will he play better against the run and make himself a more complete D-End? He would be wise to do so if he wants more money...

We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Mar 22, 2008

May 19, 2008 11:50 am

Hey Rockstar. Ya, good weekend...you?

Lotsa questions surrounding Burgess, huh?


We Should Trade Burgess!!
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Reputation:99
Level:Superstar
Since:Feb 19, 2007

May 19, 2008 8:46 pm
What I'm saying Larry Fine

Larry Fine?  Guess I'm missing the reference...

he is miffed at not having his contract renegotiated

Oh well, I'm miffed that I'm one of the better guys at my job but one of the lower paid.  I asked for a raise and they said no, all I can do is continue to perform and hope they change their mind...

is only a pass rusher and avg at that.

I disagree.  He is definitely above average as a pass rusher and underrated against the run (he''s no Reggie White but he doesn't suck).

pass rushing skills which are regressing..... He is not a positive DE and can't teach the younger players anything

Agreed, but not every player has to be a teacher and he still has some skills.

I'm just saying if a guy is cheap and still productive and there isn't a replacement on the roster for his skill set (which I don't believe their is - at least not at that skill level) then there's no way you trade him.


We Should Trade Burgess!!
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