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As a disclaimer, I am a Celtics fan, so that would inherently make me biased. Also I am not 100% sober.
I found the officiating to be horrible. The foul difference was huge, which means the free throw point difference was more than the margin of victory. Also, I could be wrong, but it seemed like a higher percentage of the Celtics fouls sent the Cavs to the free throw line than the other way around.
I know the Celtics didn't look as energetic or just overall as good as the Cavs did this game (or even for the series), but I felt that the Cavs had a little help.
Also LeBron James falls down too much. Good acting I suppose. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player, top 3 in the league, but I get annoyed anytime he's referred to as 'King' James. No one is king. Michael Jordan was the best, but he's not a king either.
One more thing: I hate the towel waving. I think it is so stupid, and should be banished from all sports. Luckily for me, my teams' fans don't do it so much. I guess I get angry too easily, but I just want to punch everyone I see doing that, including those cheering for my teams.
But even if I'm wrong about the poor officiating, I think there's a conspiracy by the NBA and affiliate TV networks via the refs to prolong the series so they can make more money.
One last thing: Nearly every announcer, commentator, or analyst for every network is annoying and stupid. Seriously, if you don't agree with any of the above, you would at least agree with this that they all reduce the intelligence level of the fans watching at home. Irrelevant, biased, or flat out incomprehensibly stupid comments make up the status quo for those announcing the game or analyzing it in the studio.
God bless America, and someone please tell Arlen Specter that he's a douchebag, and there's a war going on and our economy's shit and so much other stuff's going on that should be Specter's focus. (P.S. even if you are a conservative (I consider myself moderate) Fox News is biased, and is ruining America)
Good Night and Good Luck and God Bless.
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ESPN's blatant love for LEbron is disgusting. It's almost creepy when all they do is talk about Lebron, whether he is in the play or not. I'm starting to realize what all the Kobe haters go through. Tell Steve Smith, Stuart Scott, Doug Collins, and Vern Lunquist that LeBron James is taken and straight.
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If noone has noticed, almost every second round game has been called ridiculously one sided for the home team. You would think with the referee-gambling incident less than a year ago, the league would ensure that the officials' integrity would not be an issue. But hell, there is profit in 7 game series so go on and allow Duncan, Ginobili, and Bowen to flop into home wins.
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After reading your short novel, I have a few responses. You are right, the free throws were greatly in the Cavs favor. But look at it like this, who ever drove the the lane for the Cs? KG was always taking 16-20 ft jumpers. Lebron shot 60% of the cavs free throws because he is always driving. That's the difference there.
Your comment about the announcing I sort of agree with. I just like to make fun of the commentators most of the time. Especially Madden and Walton.
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Do you think it makes you more or less of a man to blame/complain about the refs?
Please I saw it both ways and I'm tired of hearing grown men blame the refs. "We should have won" blah, blah, blah. Every losing teams fans say it. But you will never hear it from me.
Unless my team loses b/c of a Brady-tuck call. Only Raider fans are allowed to complain about the refs chaning the outcome of the game. The rest of you need to graduate from the 9th grade.
And btw, I think the Celtics will win game 7 over the Cavs but they are not going to win a Championship this year.
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Why does towel waving bother you? Do you ned anger management? WHO CARES???? Is it that time of month?
You obviously need to start focusing your life around things that actually matter, like defending NFL coaches that cheat.
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Blaming the refs gives me a way to vent. But don't tell me you don't get angry when you team loses/ plays like crap. It's part of being fan. You get the highs when they win and the lows when the lose. I don't know anyone who considers themselves more than fair-weather fans that doesn't have strong emotional ties to their teams. It's one of the reasons why people love college sports so much, the raw emotion.
I don't have to worry about defending NFL coaches who cheat because that would condone their wrongdoing. I don't think the penalty was harsh enough, but I think most people want it the whole issue to go away. I think cheating is bad, and if it wasn't my team I'd be as attacking against the Pats as the next guy, but still its not like its against the law or detrimental to health the way steroids is/was. Thus I feel Specter's proposed Mitchell Report-like investigation would not be in America's best interest.
Also, I agree that the Celtic's should have driven to the hoop more, which would have probably evened out the fouls. I didn't like the Celtic's play-calling, if there was any. There was not a team mentalitly out there, they were, for the most part, playing one one five ball. This was the main reason they lost, but as I said, I don't mind blaming someone else.
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As far as towel waving goes, it's just something that annoys me personally. I guess I find it contrived or something,I'm not really sure. Seems like a poser thing to do. Just one of my quirky pet peeves. I just thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone else finds it pretentious or irksome.
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All I know is that down the stretch, there were two obvious horrible calls.
One, the charge on Paul Pierce was a terrible call. First off, Lebron was reaching in, and that is what created the contact. Lebron's feet were moving and he was not even fully in front of Pierce. Awful call.
Two, the foul on Ray Allen should've been a 3-point play. The ball went off the backboard before Delonte West blocked it, an obvious goaltending call.
Both of these calls could have changed the outcome of the game. But that being said, I was going for the Cavs and they outplayed the Celtics overall, so nice win Cavs fans.
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Fair enough, but I never blame the refs. Bad calls happen. I move on. For instance, the PEns last night were hit with some questionable calls. Oh well, life goes on. Pavlovich was molested on a 4th qtr drive tonight but no call. So what, it's not going to effect a 7-game series and rarely does it effect 1 game (except OAK v. NE, 2001).
Btw, I dislike the Raiders.
Grown men should not whine about the refs, that's all I'm saying. Yes, it's frustrating sometimes, but here's a little secret, when you whine after a game about the refs to the other team's fans. They laugh and think you are a baby. They're not thinking "he's right, my team is really lucky".
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No the call on Pierce was correct. LeBron had position and Pierce threw his shoulder. THat is the correct call. IF Pierce had not thrown his shoulder, Lebron would have been called for the foul.
You see when you're acting, you don't flop-forward.
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As a Stiller fan, I love towel waving. It gives a cool effect for the viewer and good forbid the fans get into the game. Maybe golfa nd tennis are more your thing?
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Ye ok, and what game or play were you watching?Was it in the Twilight Zone or were you just so drunk?
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The refs were horrible this game and I am usually not one to blame anything on refs. They made terrible calls and then were inconsistent. Kendrick Perkins and Big Baby couldn't breathe without being called for fouls and then it never went the other way.
Then, there was a 5-minute stretch in the second half where it seemed the C's were getting calls and Cleveland wasn't...I'm not a skeptic, but it almost seems like they had an interest in keeping the game close at that point.
Then some were just ridiculous. I don't think I've seen a kick ball called on offense in 20 years and if you can say that it was intentional by Rondo the you are a very good mind reader. That charge on Pierce in the 4th was another example of a completely blown call. LeBron was never set in position and it was a clear blocking foul if it was going to be called at all.
Now, I think the league has gone completely overboard with the "charge" calls for all teams. Sometimes you just hold the whistle (as long as you are consistent) and not say "well I HAVE to call something here".
And the whole "superstar treatment" is what alienates so many fans. If contact on Lebron, Kobe, Jordan, etc is a foul, then that same contact on the 12th player is a foul. There is no such thing as a foul only when it happens to an elite player.
Yes, the C's lost and they didn't play great. They may have lost even if they had a good officiating crew, but it does sicken my stomach to have watched much of what went on tonight.
p.s. and to the "tuck rule" guy. after so many year's haven't you realized that you should complain about the rule book and not what was called. It was correctly called according to the letter of the law, so to speak. your issue (and I would agree with you) should be with the rule itself.
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ESPN is slamming the refs as I am writing this. They said the goal tending and LeBron foul (that Pierce got called for) were just awful. Terrible terrible game.
With that said, the Celtics looked pitiful out there. Rondo's face looked like he did not even care. There is no reason for Doc to give Davis a high five when he goes into the game, gets 2 fouls in 15 seconds, and gets pulled. Has a playoff game ever had a 22-2 run?
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