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Since:Dec 20, 2006

April 5, 2008 3:03 pm

I realize the real joke hear is that this moron kid, one day after Chris Henry is cut for being a delinquent, is causing a disturbance in a police station parking lot no less, with a bag of weed in his car.  Then to top it all off, he plays the fastest position in the league and can't outrun the cops.  Thats pathetic.  But, to switch focus, isn't it time the Players Union steps up and says that they don't want marijuana to be punished by the NFL? 

Of course its already against the law (unfortunately) and they'll have to face charges there, and if they are caught they can probably kiss any endorsement money goodbye.  Thats enough.  The NFL doesn't then need to get involved with suspensions and all that.  Why should the NFL care if the players are smoking weed, especially in the off season.  Its not performing enhancing, and lets be honest here, its not bad for you either.  Of course if you use it too often you cna become a space cadet, but add that to the list of things that are bad for you if you take too much which includes EVERYTHING. 

Sugar, coffee, red meat, alcohol, work, you name it.  I'm sure if you ate too many tomatoes that would be bad for you.  One visit to McDonalds isn't bad for you, but if you eat too much one day they are going to find you dead, cut you open, and find a quarter pounder w/ cheese where your heart used to be.  One candybar won't kill you, but if you eat a pound of sugar in one sitting I think it might.  Anyway, marijuana has some nice benefits too which include calming a person down, reducing anxiety, helping a person sleep, and eat, and sometimes giving one a little vision and perspective. 

Right now, I think the NFL punishes marijuana harder than it does steroids (or maybe the same) which seems rediculous to me.  Steroids is much worse for the body and its cheating on the field.  Its time the NFL players stand up and say they want the NFL to leave marijuana out of the realm of punishable offenses.  Didn't the NBA players do that in one of their CBAs?  I believe I heard that.  Then we can all see hippies like Ricky Williams finish their careers.


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Since:Apr 3, 2008

April 5, 2008 3:19 pm

two points <o:p> </o:p>

1. Playing in the NFL is a Privilege and not a right.  If the players are not willing to follow the simple rules set forth in their contracts (the same contracts that make them millions of dollars) and the standards that the league sets than their privilege has to be revoked.<o:p> </o:p>

2.  Selfishness.  You listed other things that can/are considered vices by certain people and that great athletes have ended their careers because of it.  I wouldn't want a player on my team that was willing to jeopardize his career and the teams season because he couldn't control his urge to light up, shoot up or anything else drug related.<o:p> </o:p>

If you don't like the US's policy on drugs and advocate legalizing it; write a letter to your congressman; not one trying to defend a series of idiots who knowingly throw their lives away. I definitely agree that steroids are a terrible problem and we have seen how it has affected the MLB.  The NFL must continue to work to try to irradiate all illegal substances from the league; not just the ones that help them on the field. <o:p> </o:p>

 


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Since:Dec 20, 2006

April 5, 2008 3:56 pm

I think you missed my point Chipstar b/c I'm not disagreeing with your points at all.

My suggestion is that the Players Union bargain in their next Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) to have marijuana removed from the list of offenses punishable by the NFL.  Then I stated reasons for that being: Its not performing enhancing, its not bad for you, and it can actually be beneficial to an individual, and I should add that it is pretty commonly used.

At this moment in time the rule is otherwise and players are getting punished.  I'm not defending them.  They broke the rules and they are going to get their just desserts.  I'm suggesting they change the rules for the future.  I

'm not sure I understand your second point exactly, but I do agree that I wouldn't want a player on my team that can't control his urge to partake in unhealthy activities.  Of course, if he's going to be out there performing well, then maybe those things aren't that unhealthy for him.  I understand Lawrence Taylor was that type of player.


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Since:Apr 15, 2007

April 5, 2008 6:05 pm
First of all, this "moron kid" is a 30 1/2  year old man. You might get away with calling a 22 year old a kid, but 30+...no. Secondly, if you think the NFL will/should do away with punishments for mari-jah-wah-nah, you have been smoking too much of it yourself. While I'd agree that from a societal standpoint it should be decriminalized, I'd still expect organizations such as the NFL to prohibit and test for its usage, and punish those who do (much in the same way that alcohol is legal, but you don't get to drink it while on the job). Most of your other "reasons" are pretty silly, so I'm just going to let them be....

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Since:Jan 7, 2008

April 6, 2008 12:07 am
I agree... "moron kid"... not at 30.

But for the league to possibly punish him for testing positive for marijuana in the off-season, that's a bit much to me. During the season... absolutely.

And about the benefits of marijuana... it apparently doens't make you run faster... he might have wanted to do crack... as Dave Chappelle once said, "you can't catch a crackhead".

Wright was probably so high on pot, he just didn't feel like running anymore. That's one of the cons with pot, it absolutely lowers your ambition... he probably just gave up trying to evade the cops on foot.

But having pot in your car in a Police station parking lot, starting an argument (or whatever it was), and running from the Po when your car is IN THE POLICE STATION'S PARKING LOT... that must've been some damn good weed, because dude was clueless with what he did. It's kind of sad really, but really funny at the same time. For his sake, I hope it was the pot, because I'd hate to think that people can actually be this dumb. (but sadly, I do)

This definitely tops Brandon Marshall's, "I slipped on a fast food bag and cut the **** out of my arm" incident.


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Since:Nov 17, 2006

April 6, 2008 9:40 am

First, I don't post that much, because it's pointless!!!

But I have about a minute of time to WASTE!!!

1-His job is considered a year round job.  Just because it's the football off season, doesn't mean he's not still getting paid.  Also at my job where I make 30k/yr (a ot less the he does), I can get fired for using marijuana on my "off time". 

2- He can hurt the reputation of the league and team for things he does outside of "work", just like a person in any other business...  Which is also grounds for someone being fired

3- Trying to use the "maraijuana is not bad for you" arguement -- I think the "Moron Kid" statement was for you.   Maraijuana is used for medicinal purposes for extreme cases, not commonly, which requires a person to carry a medical card around.

4- IT"S ILLEGAL IDIOT!!!   QUIT TRYING TO MAKE IT SEEM ALRIGHT.  The contract, which is signed by the players, mentions it.  And.. The Law happens to mention it too..

5- He ran from the cops, so he new it wasn't right

6- I only want my kids watching football players that can be good role models for them, not dumbA$$e$ that have talent and try throwing it away. Especially when they play for the Browns  I don;t want to start looking like the Bengals

7- I feel like my time on the message board is time wasted, but that's how I usually feel readnig these dumb things

 

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!!!!!!


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Since:Dec 20, 2006

April 6, 2008 2:43 pm

I can't figure out whether you people are actually replying to my post or not.  If so, it seems like you don't read thouroughly.  We are apparently having a heated agreement in which I make good points, you people ignore them and hurl insults.  I want to clarify. 

I am not defending the players that break the rules and smoke weed.  I am suggesting that in the future, when the players renegotiate their collective bargaining agreement, they bargain to take marijuana out of the list of punishable offenses by the NFL.  Let that sink into your thick skull a little bit Bucksfan.

I believe that the NBA players actually did this b/c so many of them smoke and they didn't want to be fined and suspended everytime they were caught in addition to the legal problems that they face. The legal punishment is much less punishment than a game paycheck.  Maybe a $200 fine or a night in jail or something.  Are you retards feeling me yet? 

Now, as the rule stands, the NFL players are getting fined and suspended, and as you say, thats what they signed up for so thats what they get.  I agree.  That is why they should change the rule in the future.  Now, this seems clear to me, but no telling how you people out there are going to respond to it, so I reiterate, I AM NOT DEFENDING THE PLAYERS WHO BREAK THE RULES.

I do want to respond to this fool Bucksfan's eternal wisdom. 

"Trying to use the "maraijuana is not bad for you" arguement -- I think the "Moron Kid" statement was for you.   Maraijuana is used for medicinal purposes for extreme cases, not commonly, which requires a person to carry a medical card around."

Actually, Bucksfan, marijuana is used VERY COMMONLY.  It is used commonly as legal medicine all over the world.  It helps you eat and sleep which is what it usually takes to get better from most ailments.  It is poor mans medicine in just about every country south of the U.S.  Including India, a country with about four times our population.  Believe it or not the world doesn't end at the US borders.  But how would you know, you've probably never left Ohio except on that spring break trip to Cancun where you didn't do bad things like smoke marijuana, you just drank yourself into a stupor you apparently have yet to emerge from. 

It is illegal in this country so it is not commonly used as legal medicine.  However, it is used as legal medicine to some extent.  It is also used as illegal medicine quite commonly.  Can it be abused?  Of course, I thought I made very good, colorful point about how everthing can be abused.  Because it can be abused doesn't inherently make it bad for you.

Secondly, about your kids watching role model football players blah blah blah, I've got news for you:  Your kids are going to smoke marijuana.  Its going to happen.  How much a part of their life it will become is up to them and to some extent you and how you raise them.  Its not going to have anything to do with whether they watch Ricky Williams play football or not.  Wake up!


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Since:Mar 15, 2007

April 6, 2008 4:51 pm
i've read every post on here, and its always the same points. People see the word Marijuana and automatically go into the whole  Mr. Mackey "Drugs are bad MMMkay?" I mean come on stoners which Kenny Wright is, do stupid things, like get into an argument in a police station parking lot, but when is the last time you ever heard of a stoner going out and starting a riot? or maybe going on a mass murder spree? Ummmmm never. Stoners just like to lay on their couch and do not move until they are hungry.

Now onto Kenny Wright, he broke the rules of the NFL and the laws of the moronic state of Texas, and should be punished justly. As for kicking him off the Browns, well lets see, bad idea.  As far as i know, its his offence, and should be delt a 4 game suspention. Don't automattically lump him in with Chris Henry and Pacman Jones. If you used a little thought you'd probly realize that 1 incedent vs. umpteen incedents doesn't justify being kicked off the team.

As for role models? Shouldn't the parent be the biggest role model in any childs life? Sports figures and celebrities don't raise your kids you do. So quit being a lazy ass and do some freking parenting, by hmm I don't know spending time with your children, theirs a million ways to do it, and only 1 of them involves TV.  Get up, go outside, and shoot some hoops or throw ye olde pigskin around, or hey just go for a walk in the woods or something, talk to your kids and be a dad. not a jackass.

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Since:Aug 25, 2006

April 6, 2008 10:07 pm

why stop at marijuana?  let's just let them shoot smack and smoke rock as well.  why stop at nfl players?  how about the military?  let them relax with a fatty when they're not being shot at.  you know they have to be stressed.  surgeons should be allowed to take a few bumps to stay up all night.  come on, now.  drugs cloud judgement and i do not want a pothead on my favorite team forgetting plays or showing up late for stuff.  it pisses me off when i hear about a player getting caught for drugs because it shows a lack of responsibility.  drugs are for kids in college, grow up. 


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April 7, 2008 1:36 am

People that want to legalize marijuana are just idiots. The only people that are wanting marijuana to be legal are the people that smoke it & they basicaly just dont want to arrested for smoking it. There are more reasons on why marijuana should be illegal then there is on why it should be legal...THATS WHY IT IS ILLEGAL!!!.

Yes there is good things that marijuana can do for sick people but if you are not sick then why smoke it???? So you can get a buzz.

marijuana effects your judgment & motor skills. They have done many test on people driving cars & running machinery to prove that you should not be doing it under the influence...That is why the government & the companies that we all work for make you take drug test. Would you want someone that works for you to get hurt at your business & now you have to pay for his medical Bills & possibly get sued all because the guy was to high???? Dont think so!!!!

marijuana is addicting. It is just right under cocaine on the addiction chart. Many people have ruined their lives because they had to smoke it. Some people rob & steal to buy marijuana (i would call that addicted) Look at how many sports players are ruining their careers because they get caught. If marijuana wasnt addicting, then why are so many people taking big chances on buying it & smoking it?? If you are not addicted to it then dont take the chance of smoking it. But if you are taking the chance of smoking it a lot then you might just be addicted. Is that buzz worth possibly spending time in jail??? here is part of the meaning of addiction "Drug addiction is characterized by strong, drug seeking behaviors in which the addict persistently craves and seeks out drugs, despite the knowledge of harmful & lawful consequences" So basicly if you keep smoking it & risking the consequences you are probably addicted to it. After you spend time in jail or lose your job for smoking it then come back & tell me that it was worth it.

People dont want cigarette smoke around them or the kids. So do you really think that people & their kids would want 2nd hand smoke form marijuana??? Dont think so!!!

marijuana is the #1 drug that lead people to do stronger drugs. They dont get a strong buzz from smoking marijuana anymore so now they start doing cocaine, crack, PCP, Meth, &/or all of the other strong drugs.

You say that players should be able to do it. 1st of all it is against the law. 2nd, would you want your kids to do it & use the excuse & say "so & so players do it & everyone thinks its ok so why cant I?" Yes players are not supposed to be role models but you cant stop them from idolizing them. & you cant say that  Its not going to have anything to do with whether they watch Ricky Williams play football or not. Because it can & will. Why do you think companies get sports players so endorse their products?? Because they know kids will want it because Mcnab says chunky soup is great. Peyton Manning wears Reebok so they want Reebok. & so on

You say that our kids are going to smoke marijuana anyways. Sorry to tell you but i know plenty of people that have never touched the stuff. but even if they do...do you really want to make it easier for them to get their hands on marijuana because it is now sold down the street at the store???

 

Sorry this is so long but it just drives me nuts when people (which are basicaly the ones smoking it) want to legalize marijuana when they dont even worry about the consequences that it can have on other people & children. All they do is say what good can come of it (mostly in medical terms) & not mention what dad things can come of it. Legalizing marijuana will cause more driving under the influence other then alcohol or working machinery under the influence (now more lives will be at risk), it will also cause more people to do stronger drugs & marijuana too many other things to list...just think about it. I think that everyone should go to a few NA meetings & actually meet people & listen to their stories on what marijuana has done to theirs & others lives...then come back & try to say that it should be legal. I dont want to hear that it is legal in some other countries. we have different law in this country because this country is a different type of society then most other countries & if you dont like it then move to Amsterdam, India or any other country that has it legalized.


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Since:Oct 5, 2006

April 7, 2008 1:37 am

People that want to legalize marijuana are just idiots. The only people that are wanting marijuana to be legal are the people that smoke it & they basicaly just dont want to arrested for smoking it. There are more reasons on why marijuana should be illegal then there is on why it should be legal...THATS WHY IT IS ILLEGAL!!!.

Yes there is good things that marijuana can do for sick people but if you are not sick then why smoke it???? So you can get a buzz.

marijuana effects your judgment & motor skills. They have done many test on people driving cars & running machinery to prove that you should not be doing it under the influence...That is why the government & the companies that we all work for make you take drug test. Would you want someone that works for you to get hurt at your business & now you have to pay for his medical Bills & possibly get sued all because the guy was to high???? Dont think so!!!!

marijuana is addicting. It is just right under cocaine on the addiction chart. Many people have ruined their lives because they had to smoke it. Some people rob & steal to buy marijuana (i would call that addicted) Look at how many sports players are ruining their careers because they get caught. If marijuana wasnt addicting, then why are so many people taking big chances on buying it & smoking it?? If you are not addicted to it then dont take the chance of smoking it. But if you are taking the chance of smoking it a lot then you might just be addicted. Is that buzz worth possibly spending time in jail??? here is part of the meaning of addiction "Drug addiction is characterized by strong, drug seeking behaviors in which the addict persistently craves and seeks out drugs, despite the knowledge of harmful & lawful consequences" So basicly if you keep smoking it & risking the consequences you are probably addicted to it. After you spend time in jail or lose your job for smoking it then come back & tell me that it was worth it.

People dont want cigarette smoke around them or the kids. So do you really think that people & their kids would want 2nd hand smoke form marijuana??? Dont think so!!!

marijuana is the #1 drug that lead people to do stronger drugs. They dont get a strong buzz from smoking marijuana anymore so now they start doing cocaine, crack, PCP, Meth, &/or all of the other strong drugs.

You say that players should be able to do it. 1st of all it is against the law. 2nd, would you want your kids to do it & use the excuse & say "so & so players do it & everyone thinks its ok so why cant I?" Yes players are not supposed to be role models but you cant stop them from idolizing them. & you cant say that  Its not going to have anything to do with whether they watch Ricky Williams play football or not. Because it can & will. Why do you think companies get sports players so endorse their products?? Because they know kids will want it because Mcnab says chunky soup is great. Peyton Manning wears Reebok so they want Reebok. & so on

You say that our kids are going to smoke marijuana anyways. Sorry to tell you but i know plenty of people that have never touched the stuff. but even if they do...do you really want to make it easier for them to get their hands on marijuana because it is now sold down the street at the store???

 

Sorry this is so long but it just drives me nuts when people (which are basicaly the ones smoking it) want to legalize marijuana when they dont even worry about the consequences that it can have on other people & children. All they do is say what good can come of it (mostly in medical terms) & not mention what dad things can come of it. Legalizing marijuana will cause more driving under the influence other then alcohol or working machinery under the influence (now more lives will be at risk), it will also cause more people to do stronger drugs & marijuana too many other things to list...just think about it. I think that everyone should go to a few NA meetings & actually meet people & listen to their stories on what marijuana has done to theirs & others lives...then come back & try to say that it should be legal. I dont want to hear that it is legal in some other countries. we have different law in this country because this country is a different type of society then most other countries & if you dont like it then move to Amsterdam, India or any other country that has it legalized.