Is Indiana U just a stupid as Sampson.......

So giving the facts of what happened then watching you twist your own opinion isn't biased?

Becaue IU initially denied any wrong doing. Please re-read the story, you'll be amazed.

Like I said, just because of some dusty banners they've got hanging, doesn't mean they are still a NCAA basketball powerhouse. They think they're above any NCAA punishment and the can just skip away like nothing happened. the knew the risk and now they should have to deal with. It's insulting to every other college basketball institution. Reap what you sow.

Oh, man, here we go...

Not a fact. Not even close to a fact, the reason the NCAA even reviewed the situation as far as anyone on the outside knows is because Indiana told them to!

Erm, every single coach staff member has been displaced. You say you wan these people punished and you chose to throw Indiana under the bus for punishing  themselves? That doesn't make any sense, this wasn't a crappy recruiter, he was the guy brought Ebanks and Holloway into the fold.

Indiana agrees with the NCAA and takes further action firing a coach responsible for building a 25-win team and effectively cancels the remainder of their season.

Clueless. I think you better go read up on how the NCAA's self-reporting process works, here's another example:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2623000

You see that??

Like Kansas and Wisconsin (in my earlier example) there are *no* hard and fast rules in terms of absolute punishments. Indiana's supposed to self-report, they did, they're supposed to determine reasonable self-punishment, they did. The NCAA came back with further transgression which called for steeper self-punishment, Indiana did.

Now they're at the point of rendering an opinion to the NCAA, they'll meet in June and reconcile any potential differences. You don't seem to have a clear handle on how this works and what Indiana has done to date.

If you want to continue this discussion, I think you had better do us all a favour and list the self-imposed punishments Indiana has placed upon itself, otherwise you appear to be clueless as to what Indiana has actually done in light as to what has happened.

Look, I'm sorry SIU simply cannot beat IU at Assembly Hall or at home, and your chance is probably gone as we won't renew the series as IU has much bigger fish to fry. But all of that is independent of the discussion in question.

For being such a IU fan and supporter, I would think you would know the entire story rather than just going by what I posted...

No, just as it's not the reason for the story continually being in the headlines. Wake up. Oh, and as long as we're mentioning getting beat down at home, please remind me about SIU football (IAA mind you) coming to IU and laying a beat down. that was embarrassing....

Uh, I'll give that credit to Gordon, not Sampson. Well maybe sampson for backdooring Illinois, but that's about it.  Telling your star player to "shoot it every time he gets it" is hardly what I would call "building" a 25-win season.

I could care less what IU has done to themselves, that doesn't make them ineligible for further sanctions places on them by the NCAA's. to suggest so is obsurd.

Let me be clear, I think that IU did exactly what any other university would have done admist accusations that they cheated. I'm not holding that against them, but to act as if they don't deserve anything more that what they've handed themselves, is ridiculous. they caused the problems themselve's no one else. Trying to reduce further problems by shaking  fingers at themselves is pathetic.

This sounds about right for your content in this thread to date. Obviously you don't care and it appears you don't have much of a working handle on what that actually is. Do I have to list them for you?

Who said Indiana's ineligible for anything? They simply rendered an opinion that they believe their self-imposed punishments are sufficient. That doesn't mean they are, the NCAA can do whatever it wants and Indiana will have to live that, just calm down and wait until August, we'll all know what that is, then.

Indiana didn't win 25 games w/ Gordon, alone. Gordon if anything didn't take enough shots per game in my opinion, given his talent. Not to mention Indiana had a pretty okay year the year before Gordon arrived. Who will you credit for that, DJ White? He had a so-so year, that year.

Thats right. Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact IU stupidly hired a coach while he was still under investigation and also probation. You'd have to be a fool to not understand that IU is complete joke at this point. That's why it's in the headlines, but keep on pusing the "small school" "small town" liners again. very original.