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Yankees in good shape and Red Sox in trouble??


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May 16, 2008 2:54 pm
if you believe in karma, that wont last very long....

 

86 years is a pretty long time...


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May 16, 2008 2:55 pm

I don't think the Yankees have the starting rotation to make a mid-season run like they have the past few years.  The only thing the Yankees have going for them is a phenominal set-up man and closer. Not to mention they don't have Joe Torre anymore, big mistake by Steinbrenner.

 I think this will be the first time in nearly 20 years we don't see the pinstripes in the post season.


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May 16, 2008 2:57 pm

The Yanks got career years from Posada and ARod last year...which I don't see them replicating.  Damon and Matsui have continued to show deterioration, so I don't see them getting back to their forms of '06 or '05.

The Yankee bullpen has been good, but I think it's a mirage.  Same thing for Mussina.

So I think the Yanks will improve offensively, but not to the juggernaut level that carried them to 94 wins last year.

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Yanks don't need career years from either of Arod or Po. Their season averages would do just fine, and be so much better than what their replacements are doing it's ridiculous.

970 runs is what they put up last year. Same group. Even without A-Rod and Posada awesome years, is mid to high 800's out of the question? I don't think so.

Yankee bullpen has been better than expected, and there's another infusion of power arms being groomed and promoted daily, The processes for Melancon and Cox have already started, and they've moved quicker than anyone anticipated.

Pettitte is the classic second half pitcher. Joba moves to the rotation for the second half. Maybe they swing a trade in July for another middle of the rotation starter in anticipation of Moose's decline.

I really, honestly, am not worried. This team is going to go on a run at some point.

 


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May 16, 2008 2:58 pm

If I may borrow from some Yankees fans who have had to defend some Red Sox fans prognostications, I guess the Red Sox may as well bow out and cede the AL East pennant to the Yankees; OR, that's why they play all 162 games before determining a winner.

Let me say this, although I am disappointed by the relatively flat start to this season, I feel very good about this year's Red Sox team and have every faith they will be one of the contenders for the post season.  I don't think this team has fired on all cylinders yet, but they will soon.  Having the day off yesterday and then starting a home stand against Milwaukee and Kansas City could be just what the doctor ordered to catch a breath and get on a good streak of winning games.

I'm putting a lot of hope into this home stand.  If the Red Sox don't do well, I'll be disappointed but won't get into panic mode.  That would start about mid-August.  At that time, all Yankees fans can talk shite and feel some sick pleasure in knowing they are probably getting under my skin.


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May 16, 2008 2:58 pm

phenominal set-up man

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May 16, 2008 2:58 pm

Unless the Sox do something to their bullpen, they are in trouble.  Their bullpen is NOT as good as people think.  Not saying the yanks win the division either.  But it seems the Yankees problems rely not so much in their pitching and bullpen, but in their hitting and scoring, which will no doubt improve once Arod and Posada get back.  Or at least until the freakin' braintrust finally take that overblown waste-of-an-at-bat, Giambi out of the line-up.  The guy is simply killing us.  He is the 3rd out every single time.  He should never play again and just keep Duncan in there always.  Anyway, when those two get back, the Yanks will role.  The Sux on the other hand, could have some major relief help (outside of Papsmear) and if you don'thave a good bullpen by Aug./Sept, you don't win games. 


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May 16, 2008 3:01 pm

Get a new line because like i told you yesterday that one is old

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I thought you said the "Colon" jokes were getting old? Make up your mind already.......ROTFL! LOLOLOL


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May 16, 2008 3:09 pm

Just read where Cali legalized Gay marriges

Somewhere Jeter and A-Rod are asking Hank and Hal for a trade to the Angels or Dodgers....LOL


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May 16, 2008 3:21 pm

I really, honestly, am not worried. This team is going to go on a run at some point.



Probably.  But is that going to be enough?  What if the run is a six-game win streak, followed by a nine-game losing streak?  And the whole division looks solid this year.  Better up that record against the rest of the East.


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May 16, 2008 3:22 pm
yanks schedule in april and may was brutal, come june and july a 10 to 12 game win streak will happen

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May 16, 2008 3:30 pm

Number-wise and on pace wise you are correct uno, and I know this is strictly numbers, but when you determine who's better off a lot of other things factor in.

ARod and Posada had career years, which are hard to replicate, Posada is a catcher so he's going to slow down twice as fast as a positional player, ARod is ARod he would definitely help bad or good, but if you take his last 2 years you really can't assume what ARod your gonna get. Do you get the contract year ARod or the ARod that commits errors and has a bumpy year? I don't think we'd know until he plays more game, but either way he would help.

Another things is, is that you can't assume the Red Sox keep the same bullpen, I don't see that mess staying together for much longer to tell you the truth, if some moves are made it changes the complexion of some things that factor into on pace numbers. Also the division is looking better, we can't assume the Rays are just gonna drop off. They have serious talent and playing them 18 times a year isn't easy anymore.

To point out the Red Sox scoring, they have been hitting but they just can't hit anyone in. If we start connecting when it really counts then that argument is irrelevant, atleast for this short period of time.

You can't forget your Starting pitching. Last year you had a more experienced staff, Kennedy hasn't looked good, I'm not sold on Rasner, and Hughes doesn't look ready

Just my take on this


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May 16, 2008 3:33 pm

Probably.  But is that going to be enough?  What if the run is a six-game win streak, followed by a nine-game losing streak?  And the whole division looks solid this year.  Better up that record against the rest of the East.

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It was enough when they were 14.5 out of 1st and 10.5 out of the WC in late June last year.

And I know the East is looking tough right now, but things will correct. The season is so damn long. No one remembers the O's holding 1st into July a few years back, then collapsing like a cheap tent? I bet FD does.

I think the Rays have improved, and I think they will be a force in the years to come, but come on now. If they're over .500 in July I'll be shocked.

 


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May 16, 2008 3:35 pm

I don't think the Yankees have the starting rotation to make a mid-season run like they have the past few years.  The only thing the Yankees have going for them is a phenominal set-up man and closer.

If you knew anything about baseball, you would know that having a phenominal set-up man and closer is one of the more important key incredients to winning championships.  On top of that, the starting rotation this year is performing better than last years rotation at this point in the season.  So according that and your logic about set-up men and closers, the Yanks will definitely make the playoffs.  Your own reasoning proved yourself wrong  :)   Its not the pitching this year, fellas.  Its the situational hitting and scoring runs.  We all know THAT will improve once two of the best hitters in the league get back.  Meanwhile, the Sux have all cylinders going and are only 3 games ahead.  Not good.


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May 16, 2008 3:38 pm
Interesting post.. But with the parity of the AL this year(TB with the best record), neither of these teams are " in trouble."  In fact, the Red Sox have a better chance of turning the season around.why?The Yanks have 2 big holes in their starting rotation(worst starters ERA in AL), and this does not include Mussina, who WILL NOT continue to have the same success he's currently having all year..Where are the Yanks going to find 2 starters? With the Yanks starters' struggles, the pressure on the Yankee line-up to produce is much greater than the Sox..  this being the post-steriod era, you cannot continue to count on hitters approaching and past the age of 35 producing career years( see Damon, Posada, Jeter, AROD, Giambi, etc.)  .. In contrast, the Red Sox have weathered injuries to Lowell and  a slow start by Ortiz b/c  of their better starting pitching and the contributions of young hitters like Youkilis and Ellsbury.. Clearly, the Sox are in a much better position to right the ship than the Yanks are...