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May 22, 2008 1:29 pm

I followed mrjt's post for a couple of days now and I have to ask the gentleman a question.

Why do you have so much hate for black people? 

There are several post from you that are totally race baiting, ignorant, and just plain uncalled for.  It takes away any credibility you have.

Obama 08 "Change We Can Believe In!"


Obama for President
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May 22, 2008 1:32 pm
Hypocrit.  By the way big oil makes about 8% return on every dolar spent, a fair profit in my book.  Typical retailers raise prices 100% above their cost.

perhaps simple division will defeat this logic.

Look at their profits, divide it by their barrel cost.  $.08 doesnt show up.

The important thing was that the week of Katrina they jacked he prices WAY up, a time where Bush could have installed a temporary cap, but didn't want to miss out on this money making opportunity.  That is what showed up all about the oil companies.  But no, you defend them, feel free.

I personally, will never side with that of the greedy


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May 22, 2008 1:38 pm
I personally, will never side with that of the greedy

Me neither, but I feel as though we are on the losing side.  To say that greed is not going to exist in a capitalist society is like trying to dispute gravity.

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May 22, 2008 1:40 pm

MSNBC’s Firstread reports Obama is on the defense over his promise to talk to the leaders of rogue states:

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The campaign's surrogates have slowly been walking back his initial declarations and the RNC and McCain folks have been pouncing hard on him.

The Associated Press reports that the issue, and Obama's morphing position, isn't as simple as Obama wants voters to think it is:

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Obama gets cheers at his rallies when he declares there is nothing to fear, and potentially much to gain, from talking to enemies as well as friends.

But U.S. diplomacy is not that simple and neither is his position.

This week, Obama qualified his past statements that he would meet the Iranian leadership directly and without precondition by saying he did not necessarily mean Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iran's hardline, anti-American president.

Nor is it certain lately at what point he, as president, would speak personally with some of the dictators he says should be engaged.

This, despite months of assertions that his willingness to sit down with foes sets him apart from Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton and now McCain, the likely Republican presidential nominee, who challenges Obama on that point.

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Read on, there is more.

Yesterday, I took Obama for task for relying upon President Kennedy's disastrous talks with Khrushchev as precedent and justification for Obama's Carter-like naive promise.

Today, in the New York Times, Nathan Thrall and Jesse James Wilkins take up the theme that Obama should learn something from the Kennedy experience. In an opinion piece entitled, "Kennedy Talked, Khrushchev Triumphed," they write:

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Although Kennedy was keenly aware of some of the risks of such meetings — his Harvard thesis was titled “Appeasement at Munich” — he embarked on a summit meeting with Khrushchev in Vienna in June 1961, a move that would be recorded as one of the more self-destructive American actions of the cold war, and one that contributed to the most dangerous crisis of the nuclear age.

Senior American statesmen like George Kennan advised Kennedy not to rush into a high-level meeting, arguing that Khrushchev had engaged in anti-American propaganda and that the issues at hand could as well be addressed by lower-level diplomats. Kennedy’s own secretary of state, Dean Rusk, had argued much the same in a Foreign Affairs article the previous year: “Is it wise to gamble so heavily? Are not these two men who should be kept apart until others have found a sure meeting ground of accommodation between them?”

But Kennedy went ahead, and for two days he was pummeled by the Soviet leader.

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A little more than two months later, Khrushchev gave the go-ahead to begin erecting what would become the Berlin Wall. Kennedy had resigned himself to it, telling his aides in private that “a wall is a hell of a lot better than a war.” The following spring, Khrushchev made plans to “throw a hedgehog at Uncle Sam’s pants”: nuclear missiles in Cuba. And while there were many factors that led to the missile crisis, it is no exaggeration to say that the impression Khrushchev formed at Vienna — of Kennedy as ineffective — was among them.

If Barack Obama wants to follow in Kennedy’s footsteps, he should heed the lesson that Kennedy learned in his first year in office: sometimes there is good reason to fear to negotiate.

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Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana

 

 

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May 22, 2008 1:44 pm

MSNBC’s Firstread reports Obama is on the defense over his promise to talk to the leaders of rogue states:

The campaign's surrogates have slowly been walking back his initial declarations and the RNC and McCain folks have been pouncing hard on him.
That is fine... keep posting those opinion pieces...

Facts are not as relevant as speculation of future events.

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May 22, 2008 1:46 pm
Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding.

~Albert Einstein


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May 22, 2008 2:15 pm
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana

 

I know, that is why I am glad he is following in the footsteps of Great Reagan and Phychotic Nixon in meeting with these people, not just sending troops in blindly like dippy.

Funny how the radicals only list Kennedy when bringing this up.  Did he say he was going there to be "nice" to these people?  I must have missed that episode of "As The Right Spins".

McCain has made it clear who he will NOT speak to, Obama is taking a different tactic than what Bush has employed and what McCain has followed.  Based on the level of respect we Americans get around the world right now, perhaps as least sitting down, and telling them to "go _____ themselves" would be a better tactic than just ignoring them.

History should only be so kind as to repeat itself in this case. 

I also like how McCain continuing what Bush is doing isn't considered "Perpetuating the cycle of grave mistakes" , oh, thats right, I know why...silly me for even bringing it up to you and your side (The Great Dividers)


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May 22, 2008 2:21 pm

Churchill 

"We will have no truce or parley with you [Hitler], or the grisly gang who work your wicked will. You do your worst and we will do our best."

 "No one can guarantee success in war, but only deserve it." 

"In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Good Will." 

Big Words from a man who, without the US, would have been burnt to ashes.  Just because he failed miserably to see the signs that Hitler was off his rocker, don't hold it against us.

We knew Bil Laden was off of his rocker, I guess ignoring him and his warnings worked well too.  just keep ignoring everyone, what a great policy.

Meeting with Chavez would be terrible too, add him to the list. I mean, he called he President a bad name....ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh


Obama for President