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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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I agree with Judge's analysis of the Bucs' needs - they do need a corner, could use another end alongside Gaines Adams and aren't one of the handful of teams that don't need help along the O-line - but he misses one need that they will soon have to address. He mentions that Jeff Garcia is 38 and, at his age, it could be just one bad hit that puts him on the shelf permanently and leaves the Bucs with...well, who? Chris Simms? Bruce Gradkowski? Since their draft stocks are expected to have dropped from the first-day picks they were once projected as, would taking a risk and picking someone like Dennis Dixon or Colt Brennan really be such a bad idea? There are question marks over all of them, that's no surprise, but if they don't pan out, they've lost a second-day pick. That's not much to cry over.
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Obviously this story doesn't address all of the picks available to the team, it just covers the first round. to that respect the Buc's should not use their number one on a QB, but like you said, maybe a second day pick on a guy who might have a little upside, Dixon and Brennen fit the mold of a younger Jeff Garcia.... mobile, big arm, but I'm not sold that they'll be around on day 2. I those guys as late 2nd early 3rd rounders at worst, definitely not first round guys, but not bottom of the barrel either.
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Jeff Garcia is a winner - no matter how many yards he passes for. He's clam and cool and it affects his teammates in a positive manner. He also doesn't turn the ball over much.
Having said that - the Bucs would be wise to NOT draft DeSean Jackson, on the surface he is extremely desirable. A slightly deeper look exposes how much of a selfish self-centered major ego this guy has. This was extremely noticable in his last year at Cal. Garcia would throw to Jackson, but he wouldn't neccessarilly like it - kinda like with TO. Plus, Jackson is not a very developed physical receiver, he's mostly finese - he gives up too easily when he's pushed at/near the line of scrimmage. And on punt returns and reverse trick type plays he dances way too much and often loses yards.
The Bucs are still good enough to be a force in the playoffs thanks to their D, but they don't need a headcase like DeSean on their team right now since it'll take him at least a good 2-3 years in the NFL for his attitude to change. Playoff teams don't need problems like Jackson to negatively affect their team in a serious playoff push or playoff game.
And there are plenty of other receiver options almost as good or better than Jackson.
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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lifelongBEAR Concerning DeSean Jackson. What WR doesn't have an ego. IMO they should have one. It's the one position that lends itself well, in that a WR that is only concerned with stats is what makes a great WR. I'll take a WR that concerned about # of catches, yards and TD's. I could careless about how well they block.
Don't get me wrong about Jackson, I do have my concerns considering that he's about 5'10" and 175 lbs., but I can see Chucky using him in a similar role that Tim Brown played in Oakland's offense. Moving him around with short routes over the middle but he's better after the catch than Brown was at that point in his career. He also would be more of a deep threat. As far as his attitude, there are enough veterans on the roster to keep him in check with Galloway, Hillliard, Garcia, Brooks, etc.
I also like Limas Sweed of Texas, whom I seen compared to Andre Johnson of the Texans. He seemed to always make big plays in college, I'm just not sure if he'll have the speed to do the same in the NFL.
That's my 2 cents. Go Bucs!
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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scottb63 - you're 100% right about WR's having enormous egos, but there are different types of egos. Some are good for their teammates and others aren't. DeSean's isn't good for any team. I didn't even know this until after Cal's bowl game this year, but apparently the team had in-team fights during the latter part of the season and I can guarantee you that DeSean was one of the reasons that it started. When his ego is not at full strength it's good for the team, when it gets to and above a certain level it's terrible.
And to be serious - right now in terms of route running, shorter routes in the middle of the field and such, Cal's LaVelle Hawkins is actually a better pick than Jackson. With Hawkins there would more likely be more of an immediate impact than with Jackson for whoever picks them.
And seeing how Jackson was last year - even getting advice from vets on his team might take a while for him to get his mindset more on the straight path.
To the poster about the WV fullback - he would be great for the Bucs system, but would taking him in the 1st round be kinda stupid. Wouldn't he be there in round 2-4?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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I have to agree with you too Michman, that a QB should not be their first pick in the draft especially when qb is such a risky risky pick in the draft. Consider that out of the 2008 pro bowl that only 2 out of the 8 selections were first round picks. It would be hard for me if I were a GM to take a QB in the first round if there was other value out there. Tampa Bay should take a QB in the later rounds where there is not as much risk involved. It seems like when teams take a qb too in the first round they stick with him through thick and thin for 3-4 years example: Joey Harrington, David Carr, Jake Plummer, Byron Leftwich, and the list goes on. Don't take a qb fill those other holes.
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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When you look at John Gruden many people can understand why the Bucanneers can't consider QB one of their draft priorities. Gruden likes veteran QBs and he appears to collect them. He doesn't generally like young guns, so why draft one?
Another side of this argument would be: If Jeff Garcia goes down there are several possible options one of which will make do... but if Joey Galloway goes down, who'd going to keep the opposing team honest to prevent them from crowding the line and stuffing the run? And if they're already crowding the line, what's to stop them from trying to knock Jeff Garcia out while they're in the backfield.
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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I think the Bucs should take the FB from West Virgina in the 1st round to replace Alstott. Draft QB in the second with Flacco.
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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Tampa Bay not needing a quarterback?
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They don't NEED a rookie quarterback - they've already signed Brian Griese this offseason to go with | |
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