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The Cubs need Crawford!


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The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:95
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Since:Dec 21, 2006

May 6, 2008 10:19 am

From my understanding the Cubs are currently, and when I say the Cubs I mean the front office, are in a win now mode, hell who wouldn't be after 100 years of not winning a world series, unfortuntly the Cubs and Felix Pie aren't working out, and he is very inpatient at the plate. That being said I think that the Cubs need to send a platoon of players and get Carl Crawford from the Rays to the Cubs. I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe that he is up for a contract extension and the Rays don't have the cash to keep him and his amazing abilities. So I think they should send Pie, Matt Murton and a couple other people as well. I'm not sure who but I think that this is needed, the reason I don't see  it happening is cause Im not Jim Hendry and they like his defense.


The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:94
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Since:Oct 25, 2006

May 6, 2008 11:05 am
If Hendry called the Rays and asked about the availability of Carl Crawford the conversation would start like this. " It will take Carlos Marmol and ....do you want to continue? The Rays are a young, improving team. Crawford is the centerpiece. If you want him you will overpay.

The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:94
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Since:Feb 13, 2007

May 6, 2008 11:17 am

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=mlb&id=3410

 

Carl Crawford is under contract through 2009 and the Rays have an option for 2010.  The Rays are under no pressure and probably in no hurry to trade Carl Crawford.


The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:99
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Since:Sep 12, 2006

May 6, 2008 12:13 pm

Before the season started, I was one of the biggest supporters of making a Brian Roberts deal.  As the season has progressed, I don't think the Cubs should make any such deal.  I don't think they should sacrifice much of anything right now because I like where the team stands, especially their hitting. 

As far as trading Felix Pie, that is a definite no!  Keep in mind he is only 23 years old.  He is not being asked to start every day, specifically because Reed Johnson has been an excellent pick up for the Cubs.  When Pie is playing, he's not being asked to be the #1 or #2 hitter in the lineup.  He's usually slotted in the 7 or 8 hole or used as a pinch runner.  His offense hopefully will come around.  But his Defense and speed are already an asset.  I also would say his eye is not much worse than that of Alfonso Soriano's.  The only difference is that Soriano has matured into his power which gets him out of a lot of mistakes at the plate.  Be patient with Pie, even Derrek Lee only hit .233 in his first full season as a pro.

I think the best thing for the Cubs right now is to stay where they are.  The only move I could foreseeably make is a left handed power hitter, especially since Daryle Ward only has 2 hits so far, but I think he will come around.  But, if any of their outfielders don't pan out, they have Matt Murton waiting in AAA, who has proven a highly capable replacement.  If they make a move to acquire an infielder it would make Mark DeRosa or Ryan Theriot the odd man out, and those 2 are clubhouse favorites.  If their starters don't pan out, they have Sean Gallagher and Sean Marshall waiting in the wings.  I like our team right now and think they can make it to the playoffs with the lineup and rotation they have now.


The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:97
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Since:Jun 23, 2007

May 6, 2008 3:38 pm

You have so many holes in this post, I could play 18 holes of golf on it.....

I don't think they should sacrifice much of anything right now because I like where the team stands, especially their hitting. 

Really, how is losing 8 of your last 11 games to vastly inferior teams a good sign?  Scoring 18 runs one day, and 3 the next, that's the hitting you like?  The Cubs are only where they're at offensively because of their high scoring games.  The fact is this a very deceiving stat, because the Cubs have not had much luck in low scoring games, which is not good for a team trying to win a division.

I also would say his eye is not much worse than that of Alfonso Soriano's.  The only difference is that Soriano has matured into his power which gets him out of a lot of mistakes at the plate. 

Alfonso Soriano has a body of work you can refer back to.  A 136 million dollar contract he earned with his years of production in the majors.  And oh yeah, HE CAN HIT 40 HOMERS!!!!!!  The second Pie has the potential to hit 40 Homers you let me know.  In the meantime, he's a late inning defensive replacement, and pinch runner.  On this Cubs team, you have to be a little more versatile than that!

Be patient with Pie, even Derrek Lee only hit .233 in his first full season as a pro.

Yeah,. for the Marlins who had no visions of contending that year, Pie is on a team that's trying to win a world series, and he's practically a guaranteed out every time he's up.  I'd gladly take .233 for Pie, but you left out that Lee in his rookie year also hit 17 homers, had 74 RBIs, and 106 hits that year.  Pie isn't going to come close to any of those numbers.

But, if any of their outfielders don't pan out, they have Matt Murton waiting in AAA, who has proven a highly capable replacement. 

Great, another Murton supporter.  Get this, Matt Murton will never be a major league baseball player.  He has no power, cannot hit in the clutch, fields his position like a little leaguer, and has a propensity to ground out weakly in every clutch situation he's in.  Let's not rely on Matt Murton as the capable savior of this team ok?  Oh yeah, and one more thing, Murton cannot play CF, which is what this entire conversation is based around.

If they make a move to acquire an infielder it would make Mark DeRosa or Ryan Theriot the odd man out, and those 2 are clubhouse favorites.

Which is more of a clubhouse favorite, the guys, or winning.  This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.  Cause a guy is a clubhouse favorite they cannot replace him in the lineup?  Are you crazy, if Felix Pie was a clubhouse fav, would we be reluctant to replace him as well.  Gimme a break!!!!!  DeRosa leads the team in errors, frankly the sooner we get a guy to replace him the better.  DeRosa in the field this year has been a major disappointment.

I like our team right now and think they can make it to the playoffs with the lineup and rotation they have now.

Yes, but who gives a crap about making the playoffs, I want us to win the world series, making the playoffs is not enough, THINK BIGGER!!!!!!

The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:61
Level:Pro
Since:Jan 18, 2008

May 6, 2008 3:54 pm

Great post, clpoli!

This of course begs the question: what should the Cubs do to get them over the hump and into a position to be one of the elite teams?


The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:98
Level:Superstar
Since:Aug 17, 2006

May 6, 2008 6:36 pm
Crawford is gong nowhere. The Rays love him and believe they have enough to contend this year.  I believe the place to improve is with our pitching. Dropping Hill and Marquis from our rotation is an interesting start but only if their replacements can provide us with some quality starts. Our middle relief can be improved and moving Wood to set up and marmol to closer might be a good start...

The Cubs need Crawford!
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Reputation:94
Level:All-Star
Since:Aug 19, 2006

May 6, 2008 8:10 pm
I don't what Cubs team your refering to as wanting to win now,if they did Brian Roberts would be at 2nd base and Jim Hendry would been fired after the 2006 season,getting Crawford will never happen, so lay down the crack pipe or the 12-pack of Budwieser.The Rays don't need anything the cubs have to offer,they already have a lot better LF and CF then the cubs,and they can hit and catch too.If the cubs want to win now then they need to start by making Marmol the closer and trade Sorry-ano to the 1st taker for a decent SP or a couple of decent prospects.I saw Fontenot isn't in the lineup tonight because of his error last night in the 1st,I told everyone at work that Pinella would bench Fontenot because of his stupid error that cost them the game,but when will Pinella bench the 135 million dollar bust after he misses 1 or 2 easy flyballs in LF.The Reds announcer said that he asked Pinella about why he still bats Sorry-ano leadoff,since he couldn't hit his grandmother and he said Pinella went off on him saying that he's not answering, because he's sicken tired of hearing that question,if he's tired of hearing it, then do something about and move