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TigersFaithful Reputation:98 Level:Superstar Since:Jan 25, 2008
	May 8, 2008 2:53 pm Score: 83
	Your welcome thekingjp. When we traded for Renteria I was happy, but giving up a guy with tremendous potential like JJ was a bit questionable. Last season, he filled in nicely, like Galarraga is right now for us, but I wanted to keep that guy at all costs. Moving Guillen to 1st to get Renteria at SS worked, but now hes awful at 3rd with the Cabrera switch. JJ is a guy that must be fun to watch!
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emills Reputation:95 Level:Superstar Since:Dec 18, 2007
	May 8, 2008 3:12 pm Score: 79
	Ah yes, the old adage "pitching wins"!!! The Braves sure did prove that one true with all those World Series titles they won with arguably the greatest staff ever assembled..........wait.....
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iffy48126 Reputation:96 Level:Superstar Since:Sep 8, 2007
	May 8, 2008 4:01 pm Score: 89
	Man, that is one intelligent comment. Care to look at all the Division and NL titles the Braves had. Got to get here to even be IN the World Series. BTW.....how are those Tigers doing with THIER pitching? LOL
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Mageehan Reputation:15 Level:Amateur Since:May 8, 2008
	May 8, 2008 8:06 pm Score: 37
	Division Titles and NLCS? Seriously? Nobody gives a flying f**k which organizations have the most Division Titles and LCS Championships! That just means they put together teams that were just good enough to loose in the playoffs. Consistant, solid pitching is definitly a good recipe to pile up wins over course of a long and grueling season, but it certainly isn't the only way. When it comes down to pitching winning World Series', the 1990's Braves are a glaring example of why sucessfull regular season pitching does not translate in the playoffs - plain and simple.
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iffy48126 Reputation:96 Level:Superstar Since:Sep 8, 2007
	May 8, 2008 8:12 pm Score: 90
	Well Magheen - welcome aboard.......care to tell me when the Tigers had a 15 year run as good as the Braves? Oh....I see.....the Tigers will soon be scoring so often that ANY pitching staff could take them all the way to a World Series title. My point was more along the lines that a team needs solid pitching to have a chance of making the postseason. BTW...your statement of "Nobody gives a flying f**k which organizations have the most Division Titles" sounds typical from a fan of a team that hasn't had one since 1987.
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MtrCtyPimp Reputation:81 Level:All-Star Since:May 10, 2007
	May 9, 2008 1:19 am Score: 91
	Hindsight is 20/20 and it is too early to determine who won the Renteria trade but lets face it Jair is not a fireballer and thats what Dombrowski prefers in a pitcher. Would it have been that bad if we had Infante or Santiago start at SS and Inge at 3B and keep Jurrjens, Miller, Maybin and a few others, who knows. Me personally I still think the trades will pay dividends because the Tigers landed a 24 year old hitter who is arguably top 5 in the game today to go with an already deadly lineup. My main reason for not hating the trade immediately is because the Tigers traded youth for proven youth in Miguel and Dontrelle. Tigers are not losing because of the Cabrera trade....they are losing because guys like Verlander and Bonderman seemingly have forgotten how to pitch.
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emills Reputation:95 Level:Superstar Since:Dec 18, 2007
	May 9, 2008 8:46 am Score: 89
	Your absolutely right iffy, the Tigers have never had a 15 year run as good as the Braves. However, in the past 25 years the two teams have exactly the same amount of World Series titles. The Braves had the best staff for 15 years and only managed only one championship. Not very impressive at all. That kind of statistic might lead one to believe pitching doesn't win championships at all! A team doesn't need solid pitching to have a chance at the postseason; that's simply an innacurate statement. You and I both know there have been plenty of teams with poor staffs and prolific lineups to make the postseason. And come on, nobody braggs about or takes solice in Division Titles; just ask the Buffalo Bills.
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macnif Reputation:92 Level:All-Star Since:Apr 3, 2008
	May 8, 2008 5:00 pm